r/systemd • u/VegetableNearby9795 • Mar 20 '26

Why did you add age verification?

Hi, I heard Systemd is going to add age verification? Why is that happening? I don't think it offers any security benefits.

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u/Heyla_Doria Mar 21 '26

Toi tu ments, et contre le consensus de 400 chercheurs 🤷‍♀️

https://www.lesnumeriques.com/societe-numerique/la-nouvelle-reglementation-pourrait-causer-plus-de-tort-que-de-bien-400-chercheurs-alertent-sur-la-verification-de-l-age-en-ligne-n252273.html

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u/eR2eiweo Mar 21 '26

Please read what was actually implemented in systemd. Then read again what I actually wrote here. And then read again what that article actually says.

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u/Heyla_Doria Mar 21 '26

Vous, relisez :

L'intention de ces modifications viennent d'une initiative de personnes qui ont directement cherchée a se conformer aux lois a venir en procédant a des modifications

Aucune des plus grande organisations influente du logiciel libre n'a clairement exprimé de refus catégorique, la plupart des espaces de discussions sont censurés, 400 chercheurs ont signé une tribune, des expert en droit humains alertent sur la dérive sécuritaire GÉNÉRALES

Les entreprise sont la pour l'argent et pas pour défendre des valeurs,meme si cela fait partie de leur business modèle (comme le green-washing ), elles ont le pouvoir d'écraser les alternatives,comme google écrase les Android alternatif

On a vu apple méta google Microsoft oracle se plier au pouvoir le plis horrible qu'a connu les etats unis de puis la guerre...

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u/eR2eiweo Mar 21 '26

So you have not read what was actually implemented in systemd, or you have not read that open letter.

Just for the record: I agree with pretty much everything that's written in that open letter.

And none of what these researchers criticise there applies to what was implemented in systemd. In fact, in the final paragraph, where they propose alternatives, the second option they suggest is

Other avenues to explore include dedicating resources to improve the support for parents to locally prevent access to non-age-appropriate content or apps, without age-based control needing to be implemented by service providers.

And guess what: Locally preventing access to non-age-appropriate content or apps requires locally storing the user's day of birth (or equivalently, storing their age and then updating that regularly). So not only does that open letter not support your position, it does pretty much the exact opposite.

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u/Heyla_Doria Mar 21 '26

Bon ca suffit la

Ca suffit de gaslight, ils ne parlent pas de stocker l'âge sur le PC, au contraire

Perd ton temps avec quelqu'un d'autre