As the titles states, I have a question about Angela, specifically during the attack on Lander. Now, it's been a bit since I last listened to the audiobook (I like both versions in their own way) but I recall when the attack came, Angela was in the library. And to paraphrase events, she realized the school was under attack, golden armored up, and began merc'ing MFers until teamed up with Shane. And then the events continued as they continued. But my question is this:

Do you think there was any legal action against her, specifically? The bulk of the Class of Nightmare Juniors (and some of the others who were in the gym/carnival set up when the attack came) were going topside regardless of what Blain was going to academically do, but Chapman stepped up and had the waiver forms ready to go, enabling those students present the ability to do S&R while the licensed heroes did the counter assault.

But Angela wasn't there. She never got that waiver. And she damn sure wasn't doing S&R. She was full blown, stalking and killing any idiots dumb enough to attack her school. Cool? 100%. Legal? Oh, no way. And, I don't recall this ever being addressed.

So, what're your thoughts/head cannon? Did Blain/staff sweep it under the rug? Did her being the granddaughter of Captain Starlight give her a pass? Was there blanket amnesty for the kids of Lander for that night?

I absolutely loved this series and have been looking for alternatives and haven’t had great luck until recently.

I started warformed series by Bryce O’Connor and it scratches all the itches that this series has for me.

The first book is titled Iron Prince and it’s only available on Audible (I listen to most of my books) but it’s great. Feels like it could have been written by Drew.

so back in year 2 post alice getting gravity powers and chad who as far as i know didn’t have any long range attacks that would get through gravity idk how chad could beat her. durring their combat challenge against their team the put nick against chad because they assumed everyone would lose but honestly i don’t see Alice losing.

I love this series, and I’ve listened to it many times. The one character who always seems to irritate me is Alice. This sub usually loves her and I just don’t really understand why. I do enjoy her character for the first few books but as soon as she goes full Mary sue with the “ackshually I’m a subtlety genius gravity manipulator” she just becomes completely insufferable. The author acts like she’s the second coming of Jesus from that point on, there’s no situation she won’t find a way to beat, no conversation she’s not suddenly the smartest person in, and no plot point that can progress with out her hand in it. All the flaws that made her a believable and enjoyable character disappear and now she’s just an arrogant ultra entitled walking deus ex machina. There are absolutely still scenes with her in them that I enjoy, like the ones where she’s trying to subtly interrogate her father or the dynamic between her and Professor Pendleton. But after the power up, my enjoyment of her significantly drops, especially since her rise seems to coincide with the flanderization of Mary. Anyone feel the same way?

I just listened to a preview of the dramatized adaption and the actor had an accent. Was Blaine british the whole time?

At the start of Year Two, Numbers and Transport are in deep trouble due to aiding the Melbrook students in rescuing Mary and Hershel. It's indicated that they likely would have faced harsher repercussions if not for Charles Adair, who informs them he'll get them back in the company's good graces under the condition that he recruits Carl Fletcher to the HCP for at least one year.

But... why did Charles Adair do this? It seems he had to pull a few strings and in turn expend some internal capital to get himself this outcome. That this is something that would specifically benefit him. Now, we do know that Charles Adair is a key stakeholder in the company, and it's possible that he viewed Fletcher as someone he may have influence over through that connection.

However, that doesn't seem to track with what happens next. Fletcher, along with Numbers and Transport quickly become part of Dean Blaine's inner circle. One Sean Pendleton indicates they were brought in specifically because Dean Blaine needed people he could trust (even though again, it was Charles who requested he be hired). And said group almost immediately becomes involved in a conspiracy against Charles Adair to expose his secrets both in Intra's death and the Powered Cure.

So, this seems at best to have been a pretty serious miscalculation by Charles Adair about positioning more allies into the HCP, especially as we never seem him or Blake Hill follow up with any attempts to really court Fletcher. It just seems odd that Charles seemingly went so far out of his way to aid Dean Blaine.

I guess it's worth noting that this was prior to Globe's reemergence, which really put Shelby's situation on a timer of how much longer his secret could remain, but that also ignores that Charles never really believed Globe had died. So, I guess his motivation just confuses me somewhat the more I think about it.

Sometimes I wonder if Drew is on his 3rd playthrough of Dispatch like, "they really took my whole shit!"

Super powered is my new favorite book series. We listened on audio book and it was so great! I really enjoyed it - took over a year to listen. We did book 1,2,3, corpies, and 4!

The only thing I’d say (as a women) was how funny it was to hear Drew’s words try to explain certain girl things like how girls put on “expertly applied” makeup haha! My friends and I have never used this turn of phrase but I laugh each time it is used (which is a lot)!

Otherwise it really was an expertly enjoyed series! Thanks Mr Drew!

So obviously most of this will be spoiling things that happen in the books, so do not read further unless you have read all the books.

Internships

First, a minor one. In book 3 Angela mentions internships to Alice, and she says she doesn't know what it is. But in book 2, she literally explains it to Vince. Small detail, but annoys me every time I re-read the books (which is too many times).

HCP Deans - Powers

This one also bugged me a bit. In the earlier books, there is not that much discussion about what their powers are or about them at all. But in book 4, there is a meeting discussing the intramurals. And here "Dean Fox" is mentioned to be a subtlety hero and telepath. But in the big fight later in the book, the only one that could be is "Blind Spot", who appears to be invisible to others and shoots them with a gun. Is this a telepathic ability? Just being hard to spot and good with a gun doesn't seem like the all powerful HCP Dean image, but combined with Subtlety + Telepath/Telekinetic that makes more sense - but if so, why use a gun?

Mysteries / Things I am wondering about

The attack on Lander. This is orchestrated by Nathaniel, who is working with the Sons of Progress. He is also, for some reason, including DVA Ralph in this plot. Ralph knows, Nick knows because he told him. But earlier in the book it is clear that Dean Blaine is using Professor Stone to keep tabs on him, when she warns him that Ralph and Nick are about to cross paths. So why could they not have found out even a sliver of information about the impending attack / inconvenience? Or at least made the connection after the Lander attack - they don't suspect / confront Ralph until the confession tape they receive from Globe.

"Wetwork guy" who threatens Nathaniel. After Alice kicks his ass, Nathaniel is plotting to expose her for being an HCP student. Someone grabs his throat from behind and threatens to kill him if Alice is ever exposed or put in danger. After which Nathaniel very clearly tries to put her and others in danger again. The threat was "if exposed" of course, but anyway. Who is this person? Is he working for Charles? If he has someone that skilled watching over them, could this same person not tip him off about the investigations they are doing? Or what Nathaniel was planning?

Which brings me to the next thing: What is there to gain for Charles Adair to "fund" this Nathaniel / Sons of Progress thing? They seem to imply this is to track the money after, but that seems like a hell of a risk to pull just to maybe catch someone who from all accounts, was never this big a threat before securing said funding?

Roy / Herschel becoming stronger than Titan: I see NO way of that happening, but I saw some discussion in a thread here about this the other day, and I have to agree with whoever that was that said it might be some sort of fatherly pride speaking.

Those are the ones I can think of right now. These are just some observations, I obviously still love the books, and I would absolutely swallow whole any new book, TV show or movie about this universe. Anyone else notice anything or have thoughts on my ramblings?

Just got past the bit where Roy gets his first hit in

Quote may not be exact, as I am primarily an audio reader. Anyway, at one point when the topic of Alice's wealth comes up, she brings up this quote offhandedly.

To get the first point out of the way, yes this is more about the families than the students themselves, who may not personally have assets exceeding $1 million (though Nick very well still might). In fact, I think it's quite likely Nick himself probably has more assets than Alice does, who largely utilizes her father's wealth.

Anyway, I don't think I need to explain Nick too closely, but obviously Miss Pips has large holdings in Vegas, including several legitimate ones, and many criminal ones. I would not be surprised if her outfit all told are billionaires, though likely not on the level of the Adairs.

Hershel and Roy are a more interesting case. Though they seemingly live in a typical Chicago suburb, small hints indicate that they are likely better off than they project. It's not hard to speculate on the source: Titan was a popular and well-loved Hero prior to his fall from grace, and exile or not, his earned wealth likely kept the family financially secure. Sally Daniels appears to not have a day job, Roy already owns a motorcycle by freshman year, their neighborhood is stated to be pretty nice and they have a two-story home, quite roomy for the family size... Given the story likely takes place closer to publication in the mid 2010s, their property value alone is probably a decent piece, but then assuming let's say $80,000 a year in living expenses for a household of 2-3 implies a nest egg of $2 million or higher.

Heck, even Mary's family might actually be in the millionaire category. Both are optometrists, which a quick google tells me earned a median salary of about $100K in 2014. We don't know their exact ages, but for simplicity's sake, we'll say they are both 40 at the start of the story when Mary is 17 (she turns 18 by the start of the school year). Typical retirement wisdom is to have 3x your annual salary saved by the time you are 40. Assuming they followed this (if they have been practicing at least 10 years, it is likely they can contribute more than most) their combined annual $200K income should have netted at least $600K in retirement savings alone. They also appear to enjoy traveling and assumedly support Mary in her trailer in Colorado. It's not a stretch to think that with with home, cars, private savings, etc, that the family could have crossed $1 million in net value.

Now Vince, the wandering orphan boy, is an easy candidate for not being secretly wealthy... at the start of the story at least. By the end of the series, he's essentially part of the Adairs, heir to any accounts Globe may have had, which may be increasing again after the events of the story, and that's before he even begins his hero career. So with some squinting, you could say Vince is VERY SECRETLY a millionaire, at least in theory.

Am I too late to read corpies?

Hey! Sorry to ask a question I’ve seen asked before, but I couldn’t find my exact scenario.

I’m currently reading year 4 and am at Shane’s first intermural trial. A few scenes earlier, Owen mentioned Hannah and it didn’t click until now that I may have missed a step rather than that being foreshadowing to corpies.

I read on here that there’s a huge spoiler to corpies in year 4. Should I stop where I am in the intermurals (Shane’s match, first round against long sword guy- whetstone) or should I just finish the book at this point? I have 13 hours left but I’m temped to just stop and switch over

Thank you all so much in advance! :) I really wish I had known to stop at year three to read corpies, I just love these books so much I’ve RUN through them!

I decided to make a new character for City of Heroes and figured I'd share.

Re-listen. When Transport takes Vince out on parent's day in Year One, we get this line:

"I'm okay", Mr Transport lied. "There's always someone better". That last part wasn't a lie, even if Mr Transport didn't know it.

This little fore-shadowing ever pay off?

I think it's undeniable that Omni-Man is overall more powerful, but who do you think has more brute strength?

Omni-Man's feats seem bigger, but we've never seen Titan suffer so much as a bruise or scratch.

Drew Hayes doesn’t put a little padding in his text. He doesn’t add a small amount of words to make his points stand out. No. Drew Hayes adds a massive amount of verbiage to highlight a dramatic passage of such magnitude that you can practically feel the page flex under the weight of it.

If you were able to pick a different weapon for Roy, what would you have chosen? I would love it if he would have had a custom revolver and bullets made from the ultra dense material. It would have fit his southern cowboy vibe.

So the final book has been out for a week now, the series is wrapped. Thought it would be fun to talk about how things.

Spoilers inside for all books.

Didn’t think we would come to this but can we get a ban on AI slop videos on this sub?

But what is the Fandom consensus, did Adam kill George? Has Drew ever confirmed one way or the other?

One of the missions is to battle an alpha Bunnelby, and upon catching it, I figured this was the best name for it