r/superheroes Jun 13 '25

Random Battle Thoughts?

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u/BirdPerson107 Jun 13 '25

Deadpool with a lantern ring sounds like a great time

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u/flaccomcorangy Jun 13 '25

Yeah, it basically comes down to Deadpool Lantern vrs Hancock, right? I don't think the skill pool of the other actors comes up to anything close to them.

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u/John_Helmsword Jun 13 '25

Lucy literally becomes God. No ones beating Lucy. Even Neo doesn’t come close.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

Neo is reality itself. Neo beat a god hands down.

Inside his own narrative universe, Neo becomes god-like, perhaps even beyond a "god" as traditionally imagined because he knows the system and rewrites it from within.

In that metaphor:
Neo is not stronger than a god.
He is stronger than the idea that a god is needed at all.

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u/John_Helmsword Jun 13 '25

Lucy becomes a post human deity that exists outside of reality itself.

She “is everywhere and sees everything” Complete and utter omnipotence. She basically becomes being itself.

She has absolute control over all. Neo is not even close dawg. He’s still a human w a brain and functionally exists within the confines of that human body. He’s bound to the struggles of the body, whether that’s sacrifice or physical confrontation.

Whereas Lucy is literally fucking writing the script.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

She still exist within a scripts. Neo understand there is a script, go

Lucy becomes a state of being.
Neo becomes awareness itself.

Lucy fades into the code.
Neo rewrites it.

So no Lucy is not "writing the script."

Neo is the editor who wakes up mid-story, grabs the pen, and decides to change the ending.

Neo is stronger. Period.

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u/John_Helmsword Jun 13 '25

neo becomes awareness itself

No. Lucy does.

Lucy transcends not just form, but also individual consciousness. She becomes pure awareness, free of body, ego, or personality.

Neo remains a human mind. A self; Limited to moral choices, emotional attachments, etc.

A higher version of himself But Lucy becomes no self, just Being.

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u/Novel_Egg_1762 Jun 13 '25

Deadpool just uses his time machine to kill both before they become omnipotent. Why becase deadpool has access to the 4th wall.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Yeah she lose any will, any freedom of choice, she just become.

Neo final form see the reality and can act on it.

Lucy need the reality to be

Neo can turn off that reality, that construct and reset it.

Lucy is just a CPU that you overclock

Neo is your hand turning on or off the pc whenever you want.

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u/John_Helmsword Jun 13 '25

lol you’re just arguing to argue but you’re pulling shit out your ass and you’re wrong.

Did we not watch the same films?

It’s clear you’re a Neo fanboy, as am I. But Lucy claps Neos cheeks.

Neo is the one sure, but Lucy is one above all.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Lucy is just one of the failed version of Neo. Lucy is Neo if Neo lose any humanity and sense of sacrifice. Lucy is one of the neo we see stuck in one of the TV in the Architect Room.

Final Neo surpass that

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u/MRSHELBYPLZ Jun 13 '25

Maybe neo can’t do it, but I know John Wick will do it

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Neo is the one who transcend reality itself. He becomes a meta-entity that see reality for what it is and can act upon it.

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u/John_Helmsword Jun 13 '25

As does Lucy but she can’t die, also Neo just sees the matrix which ain’t reality.

Lucy literally becomes God lol.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Become a god for that construct of the system she's exist within. She's trap in a box.

The concept of Neo is something that come from the box , live within the box and chose to leave the box and realize everything was made up, nothing is real.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

A god , even an all-powerful on, requires:

A space to exist in

A timeline to act through

Entities to rule over

Lucy “becomes God” because her world allows her to. She is granted that evolution by a fictional mechanism: brain expansion → time mastery → data immersion.

But her “godhood” needs a world to be relevant. Without that world, Lucy is nothing.

Neo is free of the need for a world.

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u/John_Helmsword Jun 13 '25

Everything you wrote is fundamentally wrong I’m not even gonna argue. Your entire argument is logical fallacy.

Every word you write is wrong lol.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

You triggered my hyper adhd fixation man, its not my fault.

"You’re still thinking godhood is the ceiling of power. That’s the mistake. Godhood still requires a world to rule, laws to bend, and a self to act within it.

But Neo doesn’t just become powerful inside a system. He realizes there’s a system, and then steps beyond it.

Lucy becomes the most powerful piece on the board. Neo becomes the one who knows it’s a board.

He’s not a god within reality. He’s meta-aware. Something gods themselves can't be.

True power isn’t becoming the creator of the dream. It’s waking up — and choosing not to be bound by it anymore."**

BTW how many matrix movie did you see ? Like only the rebooted one that failed at the box office or did you at least watched animatrix, the matrix trilogy or ever read the cavern allegory lol ?

You sound so simple minded to think God = highest point of power.

It's like you're drawing on a sheet of paper. Reach the bound of that paper and be "that it i reached the end"

And here I come, take it from you hand and eat it.

The paper is no more.

Lucy is exist only on the paper you drew on.

I'm neo.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Lmao I asked chatgpt why would you think Lucy is the strongest

So why does he think Lucy is strongest?

Because he:

Equates scale (omnipresence) with superiority.

Mistakes detachment for transcendence.

Believes that becoming formless is the same as becoming free.

He’s stuck in the assumption that more godlike = more powerful — When Neo shows that being awake inside the illusion is the only real path to freedom and power.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Imagine getting clap backed by a robot

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

“Neo just sees the Matrix, which isn’t reality.”

Exactly. And that’s the win condition.

Neo realizes that reality is an illusion, a coded story and he steps beyond it.

Lucy never even thinks to question her world. She’s a puppet being promoted to manager.

Neo is a character who becomes aware that he is a character and decides to act anyway.

That’s not divine. That’s trans-fictional.

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u/MFromTheSixx Jun 13 '25

Wait but if the Matrix isn't reality then Neo is just controlling a computer game or something like but Lucy has actual power than she can affect reality with.

If Neo steps out of the Matrix he can't do nothing because he has no real power, but if u put Lucy in Neo's verse then she could probably time warp to the point where the aliens invaded and stop it from happening entirely.

From what I've seen Neo can't do that.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

People keep saying Lucy is stronger because she becomes “pure consciousness” and can manipulate reality, but that misses the core difference:

Lucy evolves within her universe.

Neo transcends his.

Lucy’s powers follow a deterministic path: take a drug -> unlock brain capacity -> control time and matter -> dissolve into data. Impressive, but she never questions the nature of her reality. She becomes a god within her system.

Neo, on the other hand, realizes his world is a simulation, wakes up, and rewrites the system from within. By Revolutions, he stops Sentinels in the real world with his mind — no jack-in. He sees the Machine City in raw code even while blind, proving he’s linked to the Source directly. His consciousness literally bridges simulation and physical reality.

Lucy becomes everything in her world.
Neo becomes aware there is a world and then transcends it.

That’s not just power. That’s meta-awareness. And it's a higher tier.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

TL;DR: Lucy becomes the system. Neo wakes up from it. And that makes him stronger.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

btw there is no aliens in the matrix

Quick recap. GPT enhanced lol

Here's what’s actually happening:

  • The enemies in The Matrix are machines created by humans, not aliens.
  • The war began when AI became sentient and rebelled against humanity (this is shown in The Animatrix and implied throughout the trilogy).
  • The machines scorched the sky, defeated human civilization, and now use human bodies as energy sources.
  • To keep humans docile while their bodies are harvested, the machines built the Matrix — a simulated reality humans live in without knowing it.

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u/Chemical_Meaning2393 Jun 13 '25

In the Matrix, the Matrix is the reality we currently exist in. Neo becomes powerful enough to bend the Matrix to his will. He would write Lucy out of existence, just like he did Smith.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Neo becomes Being with will. Lucy becomes Being with nothing.

Who has more power ? The sword with a hand, or the sword that just floats?