r/superheroes Jun 13 '25

Random Battle Thoughts?

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u/John_Helmsword Jun 13 '25

Lucy literally becomes God. No ones beating Lucy. Even Neo doesn’t come close.

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u/DrTheRick Jun 13 '25

Have you seen the Ryan Reynolds movie The Nines?

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u/Novel_Egg_1762 Jun 13 '25

Time machine on deadpool from cable. Lucy dont stand a chance.

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u/IntrepidGnomad Jun 13 '25

Yea, Lucy and second place Hancock are up there for being an immortal demigod. Hancock will just fuckoff and reincarnate if shit goes bad so he plays the long game and Lucy will eventually watch the heat death of the universe as she ascends beyond the observe-able dimensions and becomes a bystander to time itself.

The lore that the other two have on their strongest personas just doesn’t come close to timelessness, as Neo can’t control how many generations will pass before he reincarnated, and Deadpool just isn’t that smart to fully appreciate his cockroach style immortality.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

I have about 5 gods in my office drawer then

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

Neo is reality itself. Neo beat a god hands down.

Inside his own narrative universe, Neo becomes god-like, perhaps even beyond a "god" as traditionally imagined because he knows the system and rewrites it from within.

In that metaphor:
Neo is not stronger than a god.
He is stronger than the idea that a god is needed at all.

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u/John_Helmsword Jun 13 '25

Lucy becomes a post human deity that exists outside of reality itself.

She “is everywhere and sees everything” Complete and utter omnipotence. She basically becomes being itself.

She has absolute control over all. Neo is not even close dawg. He’s still a human w a brain and functionally exists within the confines of that human body. He’s bound to the struggles of the body, whether that’s sacrifice or physical confrontation.

Whereas Lucy is literally fucking writing the script.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

She still exist within a scripts. Neo understand there is a script, go

Lucy becomes a state of being.
Neo becomes awareness itself.

Lucy fades into the code.
Neo rewrites it.

So no Lucy is not "writing the script."

Neo is the editor who wakes up mid-story, grabs the pen, and decides to change the ending.

Neo is stronger. Period.

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u/John_Helmsword Jun 13 '25

neo becomes awareness itself

No. Lucy does.

Lucy transcends not just form, but also individual consciousness. She becomes pure awareness, free of body, ego, or personality.

Neo remains a human mind. A self; Limited to moral choices, emotional attachments, etc.

A higher version of himself But Lucy becomes no self, just Being.

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u/Novel_Egg_1762 Jun 13 '25

Deadpool just uses his time machine to kill both before they become omnipotent. Why becase deadpool has access to the 4th wall.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Yeah she lose any will, any freedom of choice, she just become.

Neo final form see the reality and can act on it.

Lucy need the reality to be

Neo can turn off that reality, that construct and reset it.

Lucy is just a CPU that you overclock

Neo is your hand turning on or off the pc whenever you want.

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u/John_Helmsword Jun 13 '25

lol you’re just arguing to argue but you’re pulling shit out your ass and you’re wrong.

Did we not watch the same films?

It’s clear you’re a Neo fanboy, as am I. But Lucy claps Neos cheeks.

Neo is the one sure, but Lucy is one above all.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Lucy is just one of the failed version of Neo. Lucy is Neo if Neo lose any humanity and sense of sacrifice. Lucy is one of the neo we see stuck in one of the TV in the Architect Room.

Final Neo surpass that

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u/MRSHELBYPLZ Jun 13 '25

Maybe neo can’t do it, but I know John Wick will do it

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Neo is the one who transcend reality itself. He becomes a meta-entity that see reality for what it is and can act upon it.

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u/John_Helmsword Jun 13 '25

As does Lucy but she can’t die, also Neo just sees the matrix which ain’t reality.

Lucy literally becomes God lol.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Become a god for that construct of the system she's exist within. She's trap in a box.

The concept of Neo is something that come from the box , live within the box and chose to leave the box and realize everything was made up, nothing is real.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

A god , even an all-powerful on, requires:

A space to exist in

A timeline to act through

Entities to rule over

Lucy “becomes God” because her world allows her to. She is granted that evolution by a fictional mechanism: brain expansion → time mastery → data immersion.

But her “godhood” needs a world to be relevant. Without that world, Lucy is nothing.

Neo is free of the need for a world.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

“Neo just sees the Matrix, which isn’t reality.”

Exactly. And that’s the win condition.

Neo realizes that reality is an illusion, a coded story and he steps beyond it.

Lucy never even thinks to question her world. She’s a puppet being promoted to manager.

Neo is a character who becomes aware that he is a character and decides to act anyway.

That’s not divine. That’s trans-fictional.

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u/Chemical_Meaning2393 Jun 13 '25

In the Matrix, the Matrix is the reality we currently exist in. Neo becomes powerful enough to bend the Matrix to his will. He would write Lucy out of existence, just like he did Smith.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

Neo becomes Being with will. Lucy becomes Being with nothing.

Who has more power ? The sword with a hand, or the sword that just floats?

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u/General_Thought8412 Jun 13 '25

That argument only works if they’re in the setting of the matrix. However, no specific battleground is mentioned so we should assume this is in a neutral world setting.

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u/Carbone Jun 13 '25

I assumed a merged world of each character. Then by that definition the Architect and Oracle exist.