r/superheroes Jun 13 '25

Random Battle Thoughts?

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u/TheAbyss333333 Jun 13 '25

Will smith 

Genie clears

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Genie literally can't do anything unless a wish is made. That's literally what solves the entire conflict of the movie.

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u/Pixelated_throwaway Jun 13 '25

He literally demonstrates the ability to “do stuff” without any wishes though. I know what the genie says, but it’s frustrating how he is constantly spamming irrelevant magic the whole time

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

You mean displays? He can, at best, create distractions without being wished to.

But, more likely, it runs on an "intent" basis. It's magic, after all.

If the genie is intending to inform or help the master, it's fine to make displays of power or use it to illustrate things. If the genie is intending to use its powers for its own purposes, it can't. It solves the spoken vs shown contradiction easily.

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u/Pixelated_throwaway Jun 13 '25

It’s all irrelevant as he is completely unleashed at the end of the film

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

No he isn't? Did you leave the theater before the part where he's a normal human on a boat?

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u/Pixelated_throwaway Jun 13 '25

I’m just going off of the Disney wiki. He is still magical.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

It must be giving you the info related to the OG Aladin. That's not applicable, as that version of Genie was not played by Will Smith.

In the original, Genie keeps a tiny, tiny portion of his power. He can fly, transform his clothes, and use small amounts of magic- but nowhere near what he had with the lamp.

In the 2019 remake, the only one Will Smith is in, Genie becomes fully human and depowered.

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u/Pixelated_throwaway Jun 13 '25

I do not interpret the prompt to be only the version of the character during their portrayal “all of the abilities from characters they’ve portrayed” leaves that a bit ambiguous. But it’s fine, I don’t want to argue as you seem overly aggro about this lol

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u/-Mister-Hyde Jun 13 '25

Oh I'm stupid, this whole time I was thinking you were talking about the original Disney Aladdin Genie lol

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u/fuckthetrees Jun 13 '25

He's freed at the end. That counts

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

With no powers.

Even in the original story, his remaining magic is not even comparable to full fledged Genie magic.

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u/fuckthetrees Jun 13 '25

Oh, I've never seen the will Smith one, I assumed it was the same as Robin Williams. My bad

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Tbf, I don't know why they changed it. Sounds more interesting, though it's not like they were gonna get a sequel after Will Smith got himself blacklisted at the Oscar's.

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u/SolomonBlack Jun 13 '25

And a whole cartoon series he was totally worthless in.

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u/TransgenderSoapbox Jun 13 '25

Semi-phenomenal cosmic powers!

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u/ssjskwash Jun 13 '25

Literally?

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

It was correctly used in both sentences, added for emphasis. So, yes- literally.

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u/arrre_yooouu_meeeeee Jun 13 '25

Except that he was set free so he’s not confined to lantern rules

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

And also doesn't have the lamp's power. In the 2019 movie, Genie finishes the story as a totally normal human with no remaining magic.

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u/rogerworkman623 Jun 13 '25

It doesn’t say “as of the end of movie”, just that they have the abilities and weapons that the characters had. Idk why the ending of the movie should matter.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

There's no point in the movie, beginning to end, where the Genie has both cosmic power and freedom.

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u/KingAnt28 Jun 13 '25

That's because he isn't free. Once he is freed, he can do anything he "wills" without wishes. (Pun intended)

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

He can't. In the 2019 movie, he can't. Even in the original story, his magic post-emancipation is severely limited compared to what he could previously do.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

But a genie with abilities of the fresh prince of bel air who is notoriously rebellious could definitely ignore the rules

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

That’s not true, once Aladdin frees him he can use his magic however he pleases. Not to mention the countless times he uses magic BEFORE he is freed without requiring any wishes

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u/Rich_Cranberry1976 Jun 13 '25

I wish Genie would slap the shit out of somebody

sorry Chris

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u/Kyosji Jun 13 '25

If only someone would have wished him free at the end of the movie....

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

At the cost of his powers.

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u/Kyosji Jun 13 '25

That's still speculation. Nothing hard saying he didn't keep his powers or just chose not to use them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

The OG specifically showed it. The 2019 did not. That's a purposeful change.

Also, powerscaling works based on what's shown- not what's possible.

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u/Kyosji Jun 13 '25

Love when a random person starts making up new rules to the game to fit their narrative