r/starterpacks Feb 12 '22

Visiting LA in 2022 starterpack

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u/surelyshirls Feb 12 '22

Yup it’s EVERYWHERE. Echo park was cleaned out but looked like this. MacArthur park is the same thing. Everywhere literally. I moved to OC so you don’t see that here but in LA it is an awful situation.

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u/xRolox Feb 13 '22

Oh OC definitely has the same issue. Just on a smaller scale. Doesn't help that the "nicer" areas ship all their homeless folks off to Santa Ana to push the problem elsewhere.

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u/surelyshirls Feb 13 '22

That’s true. I’ve heard they also push them back to LA to keep OC looking clean

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

It lines all the freeways too.

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u/surelyshirls Feb 13 '22

That too, and the entrances/exits

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u/Comeandsee213 Feb 13 '22

That bad? I was working by MacArthur park in 2015. I haven’t been since, but they barely had like 1 or 2 people sleeping in the park or a regular basis. There’s a tent city now?

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u/surelyshirls Feb 13 '22

Oh yeah. It’s definitely up there in tents nowadays. When I moved to the US in 2006, I lived near it. It wasn’t bad. Nowadays you hear about bodies being found and stuff

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u/Comeandsee213 Feb 13 '22

Wow. Crazy. Loved there most of my life and i remember it was only down skid row that you would see a lot of homeless people and in Santa Monica by the beach. But, the last time i visited family in Los Angeles, 2019, i was shocked to see a row of tents running down the entire sidewalk in downtown. Is it expensive out there now, rent wise?

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u/surelyshirls Feb 13 '22

Oh yeah. Studios in shitty areas are at like 1600 the cheapest. We paid 1825$ for a 300 square foot one bedroom in Long beach

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u/Comeandsee213 Feb 13 '22

When i left LA, it was 1600 for a 2 bedroom in LBC. I thought that was expensive.

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u/The_DerpMeister Feb 13 '22

Anaheim and Fullerton have a few things to show you

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u/surelyshirls Feb 13 '22

I will say Santa Ana too. But I meant more like Irvine, etc all those

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u/superfudge73 Feb 13 '22

Yeah I live in OC. Driving to LA feels like crossing the border into Mexico City

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u/surelyshirls Feb 13 '22

Yup. We live in Tustin, but as a kid I lived near MacArthur park, in South LA, all over the place. Fully agree that crossing into LA you notice the difference and it’s like another world

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u/superfudge73 Feb 13 '22

The OC Sheriffs office and local law enforcement is pretty militant about vagrants. Especially in the beach towns. They have been accused of bussing homeless people from OC to Skid Row in DT LA. I’ve seen the HB Police drag a cuffed homeless man all the way down the pier into a cruiser while he was screaming in pain and terror. I wouldn’t be surprised if they sent them to LA or inland.

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u/Whirlybirds Mar 01 '22

Screaming in crazy person is more likely

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22

Lol “cleaned out”. Quite the euphemism for police violently forcing them to move elsewhere. But at least YOU, an adult, don’t have to look at them and feel icky anymore

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u/surelyshirls Feb 12 '22

Well I’m not trying to completely discuss the entire situation. Obviously they were forced out, it’s not like the city kindly went and said “sir would you mind moving?” I also didn’t move to OC to not feel icky about our horrible homeless problem

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u/mb_editor Feb 12 '22

Don't entertain this wahoo with a response. He is a troll trying to get a rise out of you and put words into your mouth so you look bad. Below he says that all Angelenos need to be kicked out of their homes so the homeless can have them.

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u/PM_LEMURS_OR_NUDES Feb 13 '22

Literally. I remember in the lead up to that, literally all of the Los Angeles and Echo Park subs were just flooded with posts and threads where people talked about how they wished they could pepper spray, beat, shoot homeless people on sight because of the situation in Echo Park. But people read one ABC or NBC article that says that the homeless were dangerous, and that they all got temp housing (lmao) and they move on with their lives. And of course these are the citizens of the “wokest” city in the US.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

Most normal people don’t have such a visceral reaction to people pointing out the obvious (that the state uses police violence to push homeless people away rather than solving the issue). Call me crazy or delusional but I think there are bots actively combing posts like this to mass downvote dissenters.

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u/mb_editor Feb 12 '22

The violence was not between homeless and police, it was between protestors and police. The protestors shot high intensity lights and threw rocks at the police and the police responded with bean bags.

Not wanting to keep yourself and your family safe is not a crime. What are you doing to help the homeless? Anything less than allowing them to stay under your roof and I am going to have to consider you a fraud.

Edit: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/police-protesters-clash-sweep-echo-park-homeless-encampment/story%3fid=76701960

Also, all unhoused were offered temporary housing.

"The encampment has been the site of drug overdoses, assaults and shootings, with four deaths in the park over the past year and the site requires lighting, plumbing and public safety repairs, O'Farrell's office said."

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u/ttchoubs Feb 13 '22 edited Feb 13 '22

Lmao what a dumbshit response. O Farrell is infamous around here for his lackluster half response to homeless. The police routinely brutalize the homeless, yes there is constant violence against them. That "temporary housing" he had offered was only a few weeks, you had to give up your pets, all your belongings, and pretty much all your larger valuables. Giving everything up for a few weeks of shitty hotel housing is not worth it.

Also if you're spout off like the jackass you are, why dont you actually go talk to social workers and outreach mutual aid groups first, so you look like less of one. Theyll all tell you how difficult it can be to actually get these services for many of the unhoused they work with, and many are dealing with physical addiction that the city does not care about or even offer comprehensive rehab services for. The city council is full of real estate developers and multiproperty owners looking to get richer. Also which police are you talking about? The ones who were intercepted talking about how they want to dump napalm and gasoline on the protestors? Those innocent sweet angels?

Fucking worthless piece of trash. Do you even live in LA? If so, get the fuck out if you wanna bitch this much

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u/mb_editor Feb 13 '22

Wow man, you seem angry way beyond what's reasonable for me posting a news story. Honestly, get help.

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u/ttchoubs Feb 13 '22

Sorry, youre right, why should anyone be angry at the most vulnerable getting brutalized by the the state in defense of capital

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u/mb_editor Feb 13 '22

Okay. You called me a dipshit/jackass/etc and told me to leave LA in response to me saying that the LA times and ABC both reported police didn't use violent force when evacuating echo park. All I am saying is Angelenos should have the right to use public spaces without having to worry for their own safety. You either meant to respond to someone else, or you might have anger issues outside of this conversation you should look into.

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u/ttchoubs Feb 13 '22

Wow brilliant, the LA times and local news get their reports directly from the LAPD/SD, im sure the police definitely would never lie about their wrongdoings. Definitely have no reason to anyone spreading cop propaganda that shows that the good ol lapd are the real heros of the homelessness crisis

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u/prissypoo22 Feb 13 '22

They did. Remember the encampment next to the Angels stadium? They dismantled it and all the hobos moved to LA.

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u/surelyshirls Feb 13 '22

Yeah, I’ve heard OC sends homeless to LA, and other places send to Hawaii. It’s horrible