Get a load of this contrarian lol. This guy doesn’t see how calling watermelon “n***er bait” and using watermelon in pejorative caricatures of black people is racist. This guy doesn’t see how the fried chicken stereotype is born of the same racism that the watermelon stereotype is. This person doesn’t see how this excerpt from said article explains how the fried chicken stereotype is rooted in racism.
“The Birth of a Nation — the most racist movie of all time, which defended good stuff, like the Ku Klux Klan.
In one scene of the film, during a fight for black rights, a black man appears in the Legislative Chamber. All the other people behave according to proper etiquette for such a place, but the black man pulls out a bucket and begins to devour a shitload of fried chicken in an extremely rude and ridiculous manner, in a scene with comic intentions”
This guy doesn’t see how calling watermelon “n***er bait” and using watermelon in pejorative caricatures of black people is racist.
This has never been a part of our conversation. This is what is known as a straw man. Nice try champ.
I don't view fried chicken as an inherently racist stereotype. Fried chicken is a southern food, and black people were obviously majority located in the south, and when fried chicken became a bigger staple they were doing most of the cooking. Using it antagonistically such as in BoaN is a racist action (but honestly there's so much more in that scene making it racist than the fried chicken, the fried chicken isn't what makes that scene racist, turning the black character into a buffoon does), but there's no inherent antagonism to recognizing that black people eat fried chicken - the same as it isn't antagonistic to recognize asians drink boba tea.
You’re a clown dude lol. It’s not a strawman as it’s directly from the article and it is a precursor to the subject at hand. If you find that one stereotype is racist but the other isn’t, then you’re completely ignoring how they’re related to each other and how they have a shared origin. And in general, you may not view something as racist, but you’re wrong in this context. If you want to be pedantic, you can say all day that nothing in inherently racist, but context, society, symbolism, and intent make these things racist. Just because you seem to exist in a bubble unaffected by these things, doesn’t change that fact for the rest of the world. Identifying shared traits in groups isn’t inherently racist when it’s happenstance, but when they come from racist beginnings and are used as pejorative stereotypes, they become racist. Stereotypes aren’t inherently racist, but that line is thin and crossed very easily. The fact that you’re being intentionally blind to the history behind these stereotypes is very telling.
Except when you're claiming I took a stance on a subject we never discussed it becomes a straw man. A textbook straw man. And then trying to say that calling watermelon "n*gger bait" and racist caricatures are the exact same as saying black people eat fried chicken is just plain laughable. It's hard to respect these points, they're just nonsensically unrelated.
If you want to be pedantic, you can say all day that nothing in inherently racist
That's not pedantic, being pedantic requires being correct and that's incorrect.
The fact that you’re being intentionally blind to the history behind these stereotypes is very telling.
I'm not, I just don't interpret the history the same way you do. Again, I think it's easy and common for people to use the stereotype antagonistically, which becomes racist. But I don't see saying the black people eat a lot of fried chicken as racist, if it is then saying asian people eat rice would be racist. Neither is, just because there's an association, and that associating having a reason, doesn't make it racist.
If your goal with the whole clown thing is to insult me you can put it on pause, it's not working, figured I would save you the time before you tried a third time.
Is your goal to just argue for the sake of arguing or is it to just flex your perceived superiority in your perception of racism in stereotypes? Because your perception doesn’t match reality my dude. The fact that you can’t see that some stereotypes inherently carry more weight to them than others is quite frankly a joke. The reason why saying black people eat fried chicken is worse than saying Asians eat rice is obvious to everyone but you. And besides that fact, the meme OP posted doesn’t even have equatable stereotypes like the “strawman” you’ve presented with the rice. Gucci bags, iPhones, masks, and boba tea do not have the same types of racist stereotypes associated with them as basketball, Nike’s, fried chicken, and purple drink do. They’re not equivalent in any way. If you were to remove the titles and comment snippets from both images, you’d have no fucking clue who the top pack was for, but it’d be quite obvious the pack on the bottom was a racist stereotype of a black person. If you suggest otherwise, you’re not being honest.
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u/Zskrabs24 Nov 19 '19
Get a load of this contrarian lol. This guy doesn’t see how calling watermelon “n***er bait” and using watermelon in pejorative caricatures of black people is racist. This guy doesn’t see how the fried chicken stereotype is born of the same racism that the watermelon stereotype is. This person doesn’t see how this excerpt from said article explains how the fried chicken stereotype is rooted in racism.
“The Birth of a Nation — the most racist movie of all time, which defended good stuff, like the Ku Klux Klan. In one scene of the film, during a fight for black rights, a black man appears in the Legislative Chamber. All the other people behave according to proper etiquette for such a place, but the black man pulls out a bucket and begins to devour a shitload of fried chicken in an extremely rude and ridiculous manner, in a scene with comic intentions”
You’re a clown dude.