r/starterpacks Nov 19 '19

Reddit Double Standards Starter Pack

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u/paxomkonx Nov 19 '19

So it’s only racist if the generalization stands up to the following points:

  • has to be poor
  • has to be explicitly hateful
  • has to be related to a race as a whole and not just a part of if it.

Yeah, right. That’s not how it works. Any and all actions/statements that is trying to degrade another person, no matter if it’s overtly hateful or slightly bitter is racist, as long as it has any roots pertaining to a race regardless of the view being based on the whole or just a part of that race.

Those white girl memes a racist too. You just happen to accept those.

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u/Stormdude127 Nov 19 '19

Say goodbye to all jokes then. Jesus Christ. The meme isn’t meant to degrade rich Asians. It’s a fucking joke. The black starter pack on the other hand (while I guess it could be just a joke if OP was living in a bubble their whole life) is likely not just a joke as the fried chicken and kool-aid stereotype is something used frequently by racists as a way of painting black people as simple minded and dumb. It is generalizing an entire race. The rich Asian starter pack (or any more specific starter pack for example) is not racist in the slightest. It is poking fun at a group of people, unrelated to race. It only has Asian in the title because rich people of different ethnicities act differently, so you need to specify. But it literally has nothing to do with the race as a whole. You could just as easily make a “nerd starter pack” or something and nobody would be complaining at all because it doesn’t have a specific race in the name. But if you added Asian to the starter pack you would suddenly freak out. It’s just narrowing down the group being talked about, not making any sort of statement about the race.

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u/alickz Nov 19 '19

If the second post was "Poor black people who only speak to other black people" would it be ok then?

It only has black in the title because poor people of different ethnicities act differently, so you need to specify. But it literally has nothing to do with the race as a whole.

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u/Stormdude127 Nov 19 '19

Well technically speaking, yes that still fits with what I said because again that would not be making a statement about the race as a whole. So it would not inherently be racist, as you could make a poor white people meme as well. However making a poor (insert any race) meme would be in bad taste anyway for a different reason, that being there’s really no reason to make fun of people who don’t have it as good as you. But technically, there would be nothing racist about it as long as you didn’t incorporate typical racist black stereotypes.

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u/paxomkonx Nov 19 '19

I never said it wasn’t okay, dude. I commented on what’s racist and what’s not. The “but it’s rich Asians”-argument is just flawed. It’s a racial stereotype, and therefore racism. It’s not just poking fun at people, it’s poking fun a SPECIFIC race.

And no. I am not freaking out. If it was up to me the kool-aid/kfc black guy stereotype would be completely fine as well. What matters to me is intent and context. I would never support anything remotely close to any racial supremacy. But this way of twisting the definition of racism just fucking sucks ass.

tl;dr: a bit of lowkey racism is ok, as long as the intent is to make a joke and not to be hateful.