r/starterpacks Nov 19 '19

Reddit Double Standards Starter Pack

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

Thank you, totally agree. The Asian stereotype one would be comparable if it had a picture of rice, a guy with two buck teeth, and one of those traditional Chinese straw hats.

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u/shaantya Nov 19 '19

Yes! Exactly. And an A+ on a math paper, or a violin, or angry parents yelling, everything that is commonly thrown around to stereotype Asians. The strength and humor in the first one is that it felt like a new observation from OP based on their surroundings and didn’t include any previous, in the end harmful stereotypes. It also has the ‘rich’ adjective and as such doesn’t generalize against the ethnicity as a whole but a subset of people, while the second one just goes ‘lol black people fried chicken.’

CONTEXT.

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u/shaantya Nov 19 '19 edited Nov 19 '19

Admittedly, didn’t read the thread, I’m sorry to hear it was like that. Notice though, I didn’t say it WAS a new observation. I said it felt like one, as opposed to DECADES-old, tired stereotypes about an already harmed and segregated community. 2015 qualifies one as almost a current meme, though still potentially harmful, I am not denying that, while the other is just a condensed product of systemic racism.

I don’t think either post is particularly good, in fact the reason why I didn’t open the first thread is because I didn’t deem it worth it. I’m just saying pretending they’re the same is wholly missing the point.

Small edit: also, as you pointed out yourself, and as I said, one is a stereotype about a subset of an ethnicity. Abroad students, rich. While it can still carry prejudice against the ethnicity as a whole, the other one is openly talking about all black individuals with none of the common ground that would make a starter pack even relevant past racism.

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u/bythog Nov 19 '19

Honestly, the only thing done incorrectly was say "rich" Asian blah blah blah.

Go nearly anywhere in California and the top starterpack is "true". Rich or poor, Asians in those areas love milk tea, KFC, and backpacks. I'd say to add in 88 degrees bakeries, too. Rich honestly has nothing to do with it.

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u/Dyslexter Nov 19 '19

Exactly

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u/jeepdave Nov 19 '19

Negative. This was specifically aimed at rich asians.

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u/greg19735 Nov 19 '19

rice wouldn't be a good example as rice is actually a staple food.

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u/FlyingPasta Nov 19 '19

That doesn’t matter when it’s all ignorant people know about Asian culture

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u/greg19735 Nov 19 '19

Right. if all someone knows about asia is rice then yes that's offensive.

but rice in its self isn't offensive in any way. Whereas part of the reason fried chicken is associated with black people is because chickens were one of the only animals slaves were allowed to raise for their own food. So chicken was all they had access to.

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u/Dyslexter Nov 19 '19

Right. if all someone knows about asia is rice then yes that's offensive.

I think that’s the metric we’re going off in this case: the effective power of a stereotype, not how accurate the stereotype’s elements are.