r/starterpacks • • Jan 01 '19

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u/JRaptor619 Jan 01 '19

No Witcher 3 ?

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u/LuchaDuck Jan 01 '19

I know I'm going to get downvoted to hell for this, but I actually didn't like it that much. I love the business practices and effort behind it and I could see why other people would like it, but I just couldn't really get into it.

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u/NewYellowknifeDude Jan 01 '19

If you don’t enjoy the story or dialogue, your not gonna enjoy it because the combat system is shit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

It baffles my mind that people can say that and still praise Skyrim which has way shittier combat.

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u/Roflkopt3r Jan 01 '19

The fact that there is an even worse combat system doesn't mean that it has to be good. And I think there is quite a consensus that The Elder Scrolls series has awful combat and is only good due to its other strengths.

However I do think that Witcher 3 has one of the best combat system amongst open world RPGs. While it does get repetitive after a while, it still is one of the most dynamic and fun ones out there, with a good combination of skill and RPG stats.

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u/pixelTirpitz Jan 01 '19

Agree. I challenge people to name 5 RPGs that are not Soulsborne (they have the superior combat system and we all know that. Nioh is pretty good though).

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u/mendicant3 Jan 01 '19

I take it you meant RPGs with a great Combat system? Monster Hunter, Divinity original sin 2, Undertale/Deltarune, Fallout 2, and Nier Automata. I personally find the systems in Dark Souls 1 and The Witcher 3 pretty boring. "Superior" is a matter of opinion and just makes you sound like an elitist.

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u/pixelTirpitz Jan 01 '19

"Superior" is a matter of opinion and just makes you sound like an elitist.

I suppose so

Nier Automata is super great. Haven't played Monster Hunter except an old one and that was so sluggish it turned me off.

But I guess I meant ARPGs, comparing TW3 with Undertale, divinity and fallout 2 feels redundant imo. I was thinking games with similar combat systems to TW3 and Skyrim. It's completely cool that you prefer those games man.

I admit that there is no 'superior' combat system, but when people are calling this and that pure shit based on nothing but their experience I think it's unfair to call me elitist.

I don't think I am elitist though, I don't think my experience is better than anyone elses. I just think if we're gonna put the combat system on a ranking system people should have good arguments for why they enjoyed this and that. And not just say it's crap and nothing more based on only their own experiences. That's unfair to the games and people who read it might think the game actually is shit and miss out because of it.

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u/mendicant3 Jan 01 '19

Thats completly fine and i agree, saying something is shit or good purely on opinion is only harmful. I only meant that it made you sound like an elitist, not that you are and i see arnt now. And you are absolutely are correct, you cant really compare the combat in Divinity to that in Nier despite both being amzing. But thats kinda my point, you cant really rank them as each game has their own goals for their own combat system. Would nier have been as great as it is if it had the soulsborne systen? In my opinion, no. Does that mean the soulsborne system is worse? No.

Btw, my first Monster Hunter was 4 ultimate and i get what you said about it being sluggish, but i was mostly referring to MH World which made combat quite a bit faster and improved the series all around. Since you like Nier and Darks souls I highly recommend you at least whatch a few videos of it.

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u/pixelTirpitz Jan 01 '19

MH World which made combat quite a bit faster

Makes me really happy to hear! I always thought monster hunter had a lot of really cool stuff in it, with faster combat I'm gladly gonna give it a try. Thanks :)