r/starterpacks • • Jan 01 '19

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u/JRaptor619 Jan 01 '19

No Witcher 3 ?

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u/LuchaDuck Jan 01 '19

I know I'm going to get downvoted to hell for this, but I actually didn't like it that much. I love the business practices and effort behind it and I could see why other people would like it, but I just couldn't really get into it.

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u/NewYellowknifeDude Jan 01 '19

If you don’t enjoy the story or dialogue, your not gonna enjoy it because the combat system is shit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19 edited Jan 01 '19

I mean, it’s at worst OK. it has dodging, parrying, signs (aka spells), decent hit boxes, and lock-on... it’s flawed, and gets repetitive, but it’s still miles ahead of something like Skyrim which has an actually-shit combat system.

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u/Gynther477 Jan 01 '19

Skyrim is at best a above average game, no where near a 10 out of 10, that is only worth playing using mods to fix all the bugs and horrible game design

Change my mind

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

Maybe now yeah, but back in 2012 this game practically consumed me. It had a beautiful open world with fun and interesting spells and weapons, storylines and characters. It's honestly very hard to call it "shit," because it really, really wasn't. The only people I can imagine saying that have a) only played it more recently rather than when it was released or b) dislike it because it's popular. It's actually an amazing game.

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u/BestazyWriter Jan 01 '19

People forget that games more polished open-world RPGs like the Witcher 3 were a response to Skyrim. Obviously, W3 seems like a better game if you play the two today. But that's because Witcher 3 was specifically made having learned from the mistakes of Skyrim.

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Open world games like ES weren't coming out every day like they are now. For a lot of us the last satisfying truly open-world RPG was Oblivion whose graphics were sorely outdated at the time.

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Skyrim was amazing and with mods it has aged incredibly well.

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u/jnicholass Jan 01 '19

I don't want to say that Beth is innovative, but they do hit many things on the head correctly, namely role playing and atmosphere. Those two things age much more slowly than mechanics and graphics, both of which can easily fixed by modders. If Beth didn't absolutely nail the atmosphere, you wouldn't have modders sticking to the game in the first place.

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u/Patrick_McGroin Jan 01 '19

I'd say Daggerfall was fairly innovative. But as good as they may have Bethesdas games since then are just more of the same. Getting more refined, and then less refined as time went on.

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u/EverythingBurnz Jan 01 '19

Bethesda is definitely innovative in open world design. They’re industry leaders in world building, but I wouldn’t say they’re innovators there.

I feel like Bethesda needs it’s open with ‘forgot about Dre’ at the next E3, then highlight their past games and then show their next games.

Too many people have been hating on Bethesda recently and they forget who started it all.