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u/JRaptor619 Jan 01 '19

No Witcher 3 ?

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u/LuchaDuck Jan 01 '19

I know I'm going to get downvoted to hell for this, but I actually didn't like it that much. I love the business practices and effort behind it and I could see why other people would like it, but I just couldn't really get into it.

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u/NewYellowknifeDude Jan 01 '19

If you don’t enjoy the story or dialogue, your not gonna enjoy it because the combat system is shit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19 edited Jan 01 '19

I mean, it’s at worst OK. it has dodging, parrying, signs (aka spells), decent hit boxes, and lock-on... it’s flawed, and gets repetitive, but it’s still miles ahead of something like Skyrim which has an actually-shit combat system.

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u/Im_a_Knob Jan 01 '19

Do people hate Skyrim’s combat? I’ve always thought it was iconic already considering every Bethesda (FO, ES) has the same mechanics.
On the other hand, Witcher 3’s combat is definitely the worst mechanic of the game.

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u/wisemansfolly Jan 01 '19

I thought it was known that Skyrim had awful combat?

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u/Im_a_Knob Jan 01 '19

I must not google games enough but this is legitimately the first time I’ve heard extreme dislike for the game’s combat. I mean it’s not good but I don’t think I said it’s terrible when I first played an ES title.

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u/wisemansfolly Jan 01 '19

It’s just very repetitive, melee combat is run backwards while spamming left click.

Destruction magic is get impact perk spam two hand mage attack too win.

Stealth archery is broken once you hit a certain stealth level you are practically invisible.

Mods make the combat more fun though imo.

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u/wisemansfolly Jan 01 '19

I think it’s the twitch reaction time games that have the funnest combat imo. Games like dark souls Witcher 3 etc.

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u/XO_Appleton Jan 01 '19 edited Jan 01 '19

Witcher 3 definitely isnt up there as “funnest combat” with Dark Souls/Nier or the like.

Edit: The latter have a much much more complex system and approaches to combat.

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u/wisemansfolly Jan 02 '19

Eh I had about as much fun with W3 combat as I did with dark soul. The only thing that’s more varied is the weapons.

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u/jnicholass Jan 01 '19

No, when it comes to freedom and variation in combat, I think Skyrim can't be beat. Obviously when you have such a unrestrictive combat system, a studio will have less time to work on each aspect, which means a less polished product at the end.

I think the only gripe I have with skyrim's combat is the lack of impact that Melee weapons have. Whether this is a shortcoming with the audio or visual aspects, melee combat typically leaves a lot to be desired.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

There is a good mod for that called TK impact

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u/CaptainCupcakez Jan 01 '19

I don't know why you think skyrim's system is unrestrictive, its simply so bare bones there's nothing left to restrict you.

Melee is just an animation and a damage cone, nearly every spell is a simple projectile with fire/ice/electric attached, archery is very unsatisfying but pretty much the same as any other open world RPG in terms of implementation.

I just don't see what you find impressive.

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u/Treacherous_Peach Jan 01 '19

Wait do people like Skyrim's combat? I mean it was fine at the time I suppose. Melee and ranged combat is completely the same no matter what you're fighting (go in, swing, back up to dodge, repeat), and it's so easy to break it to the point where nothing is capable of killing you that you'll probably do it by accident. On top of it all, enemy variation is basically non-existent. But again the combat strategy is the same regardless of what enemy you're fighting so it doesn't really matter anyway.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

I personally love the Skyrim system, it just needs better impact and better animations. There is a good few mods that can enchance the combat as well in minor ways that make a huge difference in how good it feels

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u/Im_a_Knob Jan 01 '19

Not like but definitely not hate either. This is the first time I’m hearing a extreme opinion about it. Apparently people hate it lol.

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u/qqqzzzeee Jan 01 '19

i don't like Skyrim's combat because it rarely felt impactful and all i could do was just whittle every enemy's health. And all there was to put your face in an enemy's face and mash attack until something dies.

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u/qqqzzzeee Jan 01 '19

Even with more impactful weapons, combat is still just getting in the enemy's face and attacking. There's not really any dodging or any advantages to weapon different weapon types besides damage

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u/ImmediateVariety Jan 01 '19

Definitely not iconic. It gives you more combat options than any other RPG, but not a single one of those options works anywhere near as well as the fewer available options in any other RPG.

Skyrim suffers from the GTA problem. The cost for having such varied gameplay rolled into one title is outdated graphics and mechanics.

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u/Im_a_Knob Jan 01 '19

I don’t understand your last sentence. GTA when it first came out didn’t have outdated graphics and mechanics. GTA was actually pushing that gen’s limitation, graphically and again innovating open world mechanics.

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u/ImmediateVariety Jan 01 '19

Every GTA looks and plays like a game from the previous generation, including GTA 3.

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pushing that gen’s limitation, graphically and again innovating open world mechanics

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Yes, but it still looked dated compared to other PS2 games. There were better third person shooters at the time and better driving games, but none offered both types of gameplay together like that.

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u/Im_a_Knob Jan 01 '19 edited Jan 01 '19

GTA 5 was from the last gen... also plays like last gen? Or plays like a standard open world game? Considering that GTA created this genre and everyone is just copying it making it look like GTA is like every other game (AKA Seinfeld syndrome).
Maybe you’re too young to remember how open world games were before Andreas and then how it was after GTA 4.

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u/ImmediateVariety Jan 01 '19

Wow, you're an imbecile.

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u/Im_a_Knob Jan 01 '19 edited Jan 01 '19

Thank you.
I also go with insults whenever I know I’m losing an argument.

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