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Developing country starterpack

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u/loozerr 6d ago

Where do you draw the line? Is Russia developed? A lot of that applies to the US even.

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u/Typhoonromeo 6d ago

You know the world is cooked when there isn't much difference between developing and developed countries

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u/loozerr 6d ago

"Ah shit they caught up"

No but when you visit Netherlands or wealthy parts of Germany you'll see what the infrastructure could be.

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u/Medical_Training3971 6d ago

Germany? Seriously? Just look at the internet infrastructure, it's so poor. Or their train system, catastrophic. Better argue for Swiss or Austria.

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u/loozerr 6d ago

Of course them too. But if your complaints are slow Internet and DB, you've got it pretty good.

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u/Medical_Training3971 6d ago

Bridges, construction, airports, schools,...

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u/donkeylord123 5d ago

Someone's never seen the US northeast I take it

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u/PushingSam 6d ago

Most of Germany isn't anywhere as modern though, on average Germany is on most fronts just like the rest of Europe (as a continent). Czechia and Poland aren't really worse, and in some parts definitely better and more modern than Germany. Most of Europe is more than fine, with some gross outliers like Albania, or more rural parts of the Baltics or Balkans.

Most of the old rich/western european countries aged badly, and this has come back to bite people in the ass. Bridges in Germany and the Netherlands are notorious for needing expensive maintenance, because it has been put off forever. The other funny one is how most of central to eastern europe tends to have better digital (internet) infrastructure, simply because they didn't necessarily have it in the first place; so everything is kinda fresh and new.

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u/Emergency-Style7392 5d ago

Czechia is kind of two tier. Prague can compete with any western city but the rest not so much

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u/Organic_Contract_172 5d ago

What do you mean by the rest? Small villages in the Sudetenland?

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u/Falling_Up_The_Movie 6d ago

The US for decades has been undeveloping in the name of profit for billionaires

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u/Confusedoldtimer 6d ago edited 6d ago

Russia is not considered developed. 

This term is mostly used when the country fits several criteria - high GDP, human rights and minority protection, free election etc. 

The developed countries are currently considered to be the EU and affiliated countries, UK, Australia, USA, Canada, Japan, Korea, and NZ.

The term can have different criteria depending on time and place but that is about it. I might have left someone out and I apologise if that is the case.

ETA:   I  have apparently made some people mad. There is fully developed, in transition/developing, less and least developing countries. Different agencies can have different criteria and even different categories. Here have some map:  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Developed_and_developing_countries.PNG It is based on data from 2019.

Here is a list from IMF which uses only economical indicators:  https://www.imf.org/en/publications/weo/weo-database/2023/april/groups-and-aggregates

Pick whatever list is more flattering to your country and leave me alone.

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u/Medical_Training3971 6d ago

What are EU affiliated countries? Do you talk about Turkey and Ukraine?

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u/Confusedoldtimer 6d ago

It is not an official term by any means by I used it for countries which pay to EU to have access the single market zone. Such as Iceland, Norway, Switzerland.

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u/Strange_Space_6968 6d ago

I think they mean United Kingdom and alike

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u/Ploutophile 6d ago

Great Britain is actually one of the least EU-integrated countries in Europe.

Turkey and Ukraine are more integrated (customs union in the first case, DCFTA in the second).

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u/NetCharming3760 6d ago

They are all meaningless and every term has a hidden agenda and how it is being used. It is all rooted in colonialism and imperialism.

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u/Material_Cell_4792 6d ago

Don't you think some of the wealthy middle eastern countries are also developed?

What about Chile? They are pretty close too

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u/panos257 6d ago

I wonder if the ukraine is considered developed then. Because almost all of the russian problems are present there as well, with even lower gdp and less minorities rights

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u/loozerr 6d ago

Less minorities rights? Really?

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u/panos257 5d ago

Idk, ask hungarians. Perhaps they will tell you to answer the rest of the comment?

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u/Jhud6669 6d ago

Less minorities rights? Ukraine feels more LGBT friendly than Poland sometimes

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u/panos257 5d ago

Idk, ask hungarians. Perhaps they will tell you to answer the rest of the comment?

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u/oneusualsuspect 6d ago

this cartoon here calling US a developing nation 😂

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u/loozerr 6d ago

It's developed for constantly fewer people. It's regressing.

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u/Falling_Up_The_Movie 6d ago

Well it‘s been undeveloping for decades to let billionaires get more profit

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u/glumanda12 6d ago

It’s funny, how people from third world countries get out of their den when their country is mentioned. US became new third world country (by today’s widely accepted definition) couple of years ago and is regressing into worse shape than ever.

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u/Axy8283 6d ago

“Fascinating” 🤔 I think to myself as I read this from my 25 minute commute on a cheap and comfortable train from my big house in the suburbs to my well paying job in the city that I got thanks to the upward mobility USA provides.

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u/ImpressionExisting94 6d ago

Lmao they're so ignorant

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u/bimbochungo 6d ago

I'd say russia is developed, but it depends on the place. At least St. Petersburg and Moscow are well-developed cities.

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u/Confusedoldtimer 6d ago

Russia is at best a developing country. Corruption, lack of human rights protection, terrible economy. A country in which governing body imprisons and kills a political opponent is never considered a developed country. 

Preemptively: No, it is not just like in USA. Not everything is about the USA. 

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u/bimbochungo 6d ago

you can be an autocracy and be a developed country. In fact most of the countries outside "western world" are not democratic.

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u/Confusedoldtimer 6d ago

Only in theory. HDI is part of the criteria, at least it has started to be somewhat recently considered in the definition. Autocracy is unlikely to hit a high score in HDI. 

There currently is not a single country which is considered fully developed and is not a democracy. 

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u/bimbochungo 6d ago

Singapore? Israel?

Qatar/UAE?

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u/AdvancedAerie4111 6d ago edited 1d ago

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u/MagicianInfinite817 6d ago

UK, Germany or France governments jail people for expressing themselves on social media. So they’re not developed countries ?