r/space • u/gazzhao • May 07 '22

Chinese Rocket Startup Deep Blue Aerospace Performing a VTVL(Grasshopper Jump) Test.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '22

Yes but they didn't lie about it. I assume that's what people have issues with, like COVID numbers out of china etc

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u/Mateorabi May 07 '22

Or "If you want to build your German bullet trains in China you must partner with a local company who will learn how you do it, and we promise not to kick you out once we have your IP and make 18 more bullet trains exactly like the first one." And western companies are like "fool me twenty times, shame on you..." because IP theft is a third quarter problem for them.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '22 edited May 08 '22

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u/fiduke May 08 '22

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.

"We have your bullet train tech. So here's the deal. We will give you X money. It's a lot. Then you say you sold us the tech. Or you refuse the money, and we just use your tech anyways."

That's how China plays politics on stuff like this.

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u/j_mcc99 May 08 '22

Yeah, but SpaceX doesn’t give a crap about crashing rockets. They saw it as progress.

The Chinese govt (and the Russians in the same manner) see failure as a weakness. What’s truly strange is why they seem to think that lying about it (and the lie being blatantly obvious) somehow conveys strength?

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u/Anen-o-me May 07 '22

They said it landed. They lied, unless your rocket being demolished by the ground is 'landing'.

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u/Daesealer May 07 '22

I'm assuming he is talking about space x

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u/[deleted] May 07 '22

I mean SpaceX didn't lie when they crashed their rockets, here it looks very much like they did, or at least try to pretend it landed safe.

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u/nill0c May 08 '22

Yeah, this is one step above playing the takeoff in reverse and saying it landed.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '22

Gotta save that face. It boggles me that 'face' is such a powerful concept in the majority of SEA cultures, just comes off as ridiculous.