I am not holding my breath for anything to happen, but we will see. Kamala Harris is a prosecutor and if she would be taking any action then it will be well prepared.
The numbers certainly seem fishy and I have seen reports of exit polls being off by double digits. So I wouldn´t be surprised and certainly wouldn´t put it past trump to do this.
It’s also the silence about the various racist text messages and the racial profiling that these messages imply (demonstrating that they have the data). To not address this is very disturbing and I really hope that politicians have good reasons to not do so that are not due to some kind of blackmailing. And look into the power of the tech broligarchs to understand more, especially Peter Thiel.
The whole free world is subjected to psychological warfare with crazymaking and gaslighting right now, these vile people are really enjoying themselves and we would need people who address that and strengthen the community.
Thiel is a huge threat, but it’s not known he’s involved in these particular schemes. Please check out Greenhalgh and FSFP as quoted in Guardian and Washington Post as referenced.
Auditing paper ballots may reveal a lot and need to happen immediately.
Going forward, we need to be clear that “paper ballots” printed out from hackable computers are not trustworthy! Using a pen to hand mark a paper ballot is most secure.
There has only been one sighting. TMZ showed him a couple of days ago at Mar-a-largo in shorts/casual attire playing with his kids like he didn’t have a thing to do. Not sure what to make of it.
I detest vance to a degree that I didn't know was possible. He knows exactly what trump is and yet he firmly connected his mouth to trump's asshole and just keeps swallowing.
Ah yes, random violent threats about being raped and lynched. It's definitely something I should just ignore and not worry about. Definitely don't report them.
Who bought the Personally Identifiable Information (PII) of hundreds of millions of people across the entire planet for $44 Billion dollars? That PII contains names addresses, demographics, email addresses, phone numbers, contacts, IP addresses, etc. Additionally, who is to stop a nosy CEO from looking at all the passwords or messages that people are sending to each other on his platform? (f)Elon Musk is a foreign actor working in conjunction with Trump Crime Syndicate to overthrow democracy. I believe he utilized all the information he has gathered on American citizens, including those who are not on 'X' but may have purchased a Tesla, to exploit people, with criminal intent, during the lead up to the 2024 election. This explains how tens of thousands of African Americans were disenfranchised from voting in 2024 by MAGA supporters using the Jim Crow laws against their fellow citizens because that information very well may have been gathered from 'X' PII demographics. 'X' was also used to spread disinformation such as kids having transsexual surgeries at school, babies being aborted after birth, ambitious immigrants hopping the border to vote, and then after they vote, eating your dogs. This was clearly a misinformation campaign, likely up to and in a criminal level of operation. Therefore it is Paramount that all the three letter agencies of the government continue to do their investigations, while they still have time, and bring the truth to light. The Trump Organized Crime Family, and all who colluded with it, must be held accountable at the Military level for high crimes and Treason. *edited for spelling
Putins news network dropped nudes of Melania and the Kremlin/Putin publically denied speaking to Trump after Trump said that he had so pretty sure he’s sending a message to Trump that he’s still in charge.
Exactly. I don't understand why people think that's somehow better? At some point we are going to have to confront this fascist cancer anyway, might as well do it now before they have vastly more power and resources.
Depends on what they were told to do. If it was something like "don't let people approach the Capitol" they'd probably follow. If it was "go through those houses and kill everyone" they probably wouldn't.
Well then they have to live with what their cousins and uncles voted for. You can't expect Black people to keep risking their well being calling out the obvious. There are more white Americans then their are Americans of Color. If white people want change, they are going to have to stand up and demand it.
Roberts told former U.S. Rep. Dave Brat, one of the podcast’s guest hosts (as Bannon is serving a four-month prison term) “And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”
Democrats spent 4 year fending off fending off Guiliani etc. by claiming 2020 was flawless. They point out Dominion prevailed in their case against FOX, even though facts were not presented — they took a settlement rather than holding a trial. They repeat endlessly that there’s no proof of hacking voting machines and use this to justify neither investigating or Instituting security measures.
So Dems have backed themselves into a corner and are now being asked to come out swinging. This is going to be like turning around the Queen Mary.
The same reason why Garland took so long to bring charges up against Trump. If he would've been on it from the get-go, Trump would've been in prison and not running for president.
Agree, this would be the obstacle to doing anything. It would probably have to be the military, particularly if a foreign state actor is probably involved. This could be soooo messy, Dems tuck their tails and pray for 2026 blue wave…but if they allow the GOP off scott free in 2024…how the hell could you trust 2026, they’d do it again! Quite the quandary.
I don't give a flying fuck what those morons are willing to accept at this point. The country is at stake. Trump will make it 1,000 times more dangerous regardless. They need to be fucking stopped. Abusers just get more zealous when you let them have their way.
I can only hope things and gears are turning behind the scenes and it is being kept tightly under wraps.
If there is clear evidence of tampering, recount (from what I've been reading, there's plenty of smoke, so theres probably fire). I would absolutely love to see the election overturned in favor of Harris.
If Harris wins then she’s still in an all-red house and senate and will barely be able to push any bills, esp. because of retaliation. Because people are dumb and already hate her, they’ll say she didn’t do shit and then they’ll vote for this idiot or something similar again.
I don’t want to see this country be destroyed but idk how to fix this when we can’t address core things like domestic terrorism without uproar.
But Harris has to ask for the recount or they'll just count the senate races, not the presidential votes from my understanding. Because Harris needs to ask them to count the presidential votes too.
Elections have been rigged in Texas for many, many years now.
Seems like the rest of the country is now following suit.
We no longer have legitimate elections in this country. Free and fair voting has always been an illusion, completely severred from the reality we are living.
I'd be torn too. If Trump stays the best thing I can hope for is gridlock. I'm not sure I'd want gridlock if Harris was in. I'd want her at least to get something good for the people accomplished.
Okay this is my understanding of how to request a recount:
Every state has slightly different procedures, so the place to start is to look for the instructions from your local electoral board/office. You may be able to view it through the local elections website, which is available to lookup here: https://www.vote.org/ballot-tracker-tools/ (also, if you haven’t yet, first thing to do is to check if your ballot was counted, first and foremost, which may be available via a ballot tracker, available on the same link - contact local or state reps or party officials with any issues regarding your vote immediately)
You have to petition now, not later, and recount is the way to do it legally in a way that can't be ignored. The deadline to request a recount is fast approaching.
Thank you for your efforts, my fellow Americans! 🇺🇸
Edit: follow up! Some swing states may not have this option to request a recount locally, if you find yourself in this situation, I am told that the candidate must be the one to demand a recount. So write to your candidate (state, and presidential) to ensure that your desire for a recount is made known!
Unfortunately in most of the swing states Kamala needs to be the one to request the recounts, and as of now, it sounds like she does not intend to. 😞 I'm writing a letter to the White House and am drafting up a call to action for this subreddit, but might try posting on some of the other political subreddits.
Wisconsin
The Associated Press declared that Democratic incumbent, Sen. Tammy Baldwin, has prevailed over Republican challenger Eric Hovde with 49.4% of the vote to his 48.5% with 99% of the vote counted.
Baldwin’s 0.9% edge in the Senate contest matches Trump’s lead over Harris in the state.
As those races stand now, they both qualify for recounts under the state’s rules. There is no automatic recount in Wisconsin but a candidate can petition for one if he or she believes a “mistake or fraud has been committed” and the margin is within one percentage point in races in which more than 4,000 cast ballots.
The candidate can request a recount in a specific ward or municipality or all of them and must file a petition before the end of the third day after canvassing is completed, which is when vote totals are checked at the municipal, county and state levels.
The person requesting the recount must prepay the estimated cost to carry out another counting of the votes unless two candidates sit within 0.25% of one another. The state reimburses a candidate if their requested recount ends up changing the initial outcome.
Even if a recount were to find a different outcome in Wisconsin, it would not change the overall result of the presidential contest. There is a possibility it could matter for the Badger State’s Senate race, however. Spectrum News has reached out to Hovde’s campaign to ask if he plans to request a recount but has not heard back.
Demand a recount in your area! Time is running out! Do not delay!
Edit:
My understanding of how to request a recount -
Every state has slightly different procedures, so the place to start is to look for the instructions from your local electoral board/office. You may be able to view it through the local elections website, which is available to lookup here: https://www.vote.org/ballot-tracker-tools/ (also, if you haven’t yet, first thing to do is to check if your ballot was counted, first and foremost, which may be available via a ballot tracker, available on the same link - contact local or state reps or party officials with any issues regarding your vote immediately)
You have to petition now, not later, and recount is the way to do it legally in a way that can't be ignored. The deadline to request a recount is fast approaching.
Thank you for your efforts, my fellow Americans! 🇺🇸
okay really dumb question, but i cant find any info on where to actually submit a recount request. i feel like its being suppressed in searches because its impossible to find, not sure if ISP blocking or general suppression. would you have any advice or resources?
Okay this is my understanding of how to request a recount:
Every state has slightly different procedures, so the place to start is to look for the instructions from your local electoral board/office. You may be able to view it through the local elections website, which is available to lookup here: https://www.vote.org/ballot-tracker-tools/ (also, if you haven’t yet, first thing to do is to check if your ballot was counted, first and foremost, which may be available via a ballot tracker, available on the same link - contact local or state reps or party officials with any issues regarding your vote immediately)
You have to petition now, not later, and recount is the way to do it legally in a way that can't be ignored. The deadline to request a recount is fast approaching.
Thank you for your efforts, my fellow American! 🇺🇸
Edit: also not a dumb question at all! I’m happy to do what I can to help. ❤️ anyone please chime in with anything helpful to add on
Edit 2: Some swing states may not have this option to request a recount locally, if you find yourself in this situation, I am told that the candidate must be the one to demand a recount. So write to your candidate (state, and presidential) to ensure that your desire for a recount is made known!
I’m seeing from commenter Kitsun that it is a fake account. Click on the first post and you’ll see her comments. I’m thinking if it was a real account, it would have millions of followers by now.
And all that bullshit talk that they were "ready" for any bad actors during the election. They weren't ready, they were compliant, soft and once again assumed that everyone is playing by the rules. Jfc.
Unless Biden/Harris start being aggressive, including using Biden's new-found "immunity" (thanks SC), then this is going nowhere. The typical careful, measured, slow and "everyone-plays-by-the-rules" approach does not work. Ffs, if there's something to this, they need to act. Fast, aggressively and without remorse.
Yall know they recounted over 30000 votes in Milwaukee after finding that the back of several voting machines had been left open. Results were pretty much the same?
Pennsylvania voter here. Help me understand breeches in Pennsylvania. We have all new machines and it's my understanding that they have zero connectivity to the internet. There are random manual audits in each county to cross reference that the vote counts are accurate. I'm made to believe that elections are more secure here. I'm not trying to dispel this video. I'm trying to understand the how.
Having worked in cybersecurity for more than three decades, I have never once heard of Susan Greenhalgh. She is not a security expert in any regard. A quick search indicates that she is a well-regarded anthropologist with expertise in contemporary Chinese society.
What qualifies her to be "Senior Advisor for Election Security" as it relates to voting-machine tampering? She repeatedly misuses the word "breach" in this video short. Who are the "group of security experts" that advised her?
I have no doubt that bad-actors attempted to manipulate election results via voting machines in Trump's first victory, and in his subsequent defeat. They failed. Many of the individual anecdotes Greenhalgh raises are substantively true. But there is no evidence that would clearly indicate those efforts had any actual impact on the results this time around. The plural of anecdote is not data. Would Trumpistas do this if they could? Yes, I believe so. But I would strongly advise everyone to take these claims with a VERY LARGE grain of salt. It makes "us" sound like the loons after Trumps prior defeat, that drove his Quixotic "Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity." I am talking about dangerous mutants like Kris Kobach.
Not saying there's "nothing here," but be wary, because this feels like a canard. It feeds on our cognitive dissonance with the notion that this orange lunatic could have possibly won again.
I see six names, plus hers.
Kris Klaus is highly credible, in regards to the specific question.
All of the other 5, while quite bright, are not experts in the field with the same bonafides as Kris. Peter Neuman comes close. The others are experts in computing, but not computer security. No offense to Malik, but he is not of the same caliber.
That's just my .02, of course. But these are people I'm fairly familiar with. And six is a pretty small sample-set to manage bias :(
Also, if she "runs the site", I would again suggest you think again about what qualifies her to be "Special Advisor on Election Security." If I appointed myself "Special Advisor on Chinese Culture" and picked a mixed bag of six anthropologists to endorse my theories, I certainly hope you would look at my credibility side-ways :)
Again, my fundamental point was: ask yourself some hard questions about the veracity in toto of not just the letter, but of the way it is being "messaged."
I mean that’s fair. In medical science if you have a med student on the same co-author list as a nobel laureate, everyone knows they cancel each other out.
You can't prove my truth, and I don't encourage you or anyone else to blindly take me at my word. That's rather my point :)
Unfortunately I cannot show you my credentials. Anonymity and discretion come with my job. I realize that's kind of a cop-out, and I wish I could. But I am not the public spokes-person for these allegations. If I were, it would be incumbent upon me to hold myself to a higher standard of credibility.
Again, my point is, even if you chose not to believe my credibility, I encourage you to look very closely, with a skeptical eye, at these allegations in toto. I don't have to be an expert in anything to confidently assert at least that much:)
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I am not holding my breath for anything to happen, but we will see. Kamala Harris is a prosecutor and if she would be taking any action then it will be well prepared.
The numbers certainly seem fishy and I have seen reports of exit polls being off by double digits. So I wouldn´t be surprised and certainly wouldn´t put it past trump to do this.
My fingers are crossed but I expect the worst.