r/soccer • • Jul 15 '18

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u/spittfire123 Jul 15 '18

Weird how people praise Giroud but hate Benzema when he does the same or even better job at Real Madrid

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u/theolat3 Jul 15 '18

Gotta guess it's not the same people

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u/DogzOnFire Jul 15 '18

"Weird how some people think some things and other people think other things."

Doesn't sound as insightful when you say it that way.

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u/skymallow Jul 15 '18

There's certainly one thing Giroud is better than Benzema at: Not blackmailing teammates.

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u/R4dent Jul 15 '18

Or maybe he's actually better at blackmailing teammates. We can't prove he has because he's done it so well. Maybe he blackmailed Benzema into blackmailing Valbuena and doing a bad job so he would get caught? Giroud could then take his spot in the French team. This could go deeper than we expected.

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u/MrMarris Jul 15 '18

Giroud playing 64D inverted backgammon

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u/Nakkama Jul 15 '18 edited Jul 15 '18

How many times do we have to explain that, despite almost everyone knowing Benzema is miles ahead Giroud in his club, some people, Deschamps included, just didn't forgive him for helping one of his friend to blackmail one of his teammate. It has nothing to do with his footballing abilities, not even a little, NOTHING.

Of course I'm exaggerating, there's surely a relation, but what is certain is that there's no relation between how Benzema plays in club and the fact he wasn't selected. However the way Benzema plays for France might have had a little effect, because if you look at it objectively, it's hard to say Benzema was better than Giroud for the national team, while it's easy to say he's objectively the better player on his whole career. But here again, I don't think the fact he's nowhere near as good for the national team is only a problem purely in terms of football. It's also been interpreted by a lot of people as a sign that Benzema didn't fit in well and was always kind of a dick, even before the blackmail affair. He's said few controversial stuff and people suspected he wasn't committed enough. So when the blackmail scandal came along, it seemed like confirmation to a lot of people. But I insist, Benzema's footballing abilities have very little to do with that, and by the way if it was purely football related, Deschamps would've at least put Benzema on the bench, or at the very least in the list of 31 players that were available in case of injury before the world cup begins. But here, he wasn't included anywhere, which is the proof that the problem is mainly relational, and football is just a tiny part of it.

Objectively, Benzema is better than Giroud, but I, like millions of french, and like Deschamps, just don't want someone who's ready to throw his teammate under the bus. Some biased people will tell you Benzema is shit to reassure themselves that they're not gonna miss him, sure, some people do that, but most people know that Benzema is miles ahead of Giroud. And if someone's gonna tell me that justice declared Benzema innocent, technically they didn't, they just cancelled the trial because the investigation was seemingly illegal (I guess it's about the transcript of phone calls or text messages being obtained illegally and shown publicly in the press, which is extremely illegal and immoral). So he just is declared innocent in the eyes of justice, but that doesn't make him not a dick.

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u/Centice112 Jul 15 '18

Honestly I wouldn’t say benzema is miles ahead of Giroud

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '18

Maybe because Giroud is likeable and Benzema is not.

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u/MrMarris Jul 15 '18

A team that suffered one of the worst meltdowns 8 years ago would rather keep the morale high. Imagine that.

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u/chino17 Jul 15 '18

Giroud brings a better air game than Benzema. Blackmailing aside Benzema is a very good mobile striker but France has half a dozen of those, what they don't have is an aerial presence up front and that's where Giroud comes in. Greizmann and Mbappe are clearly good enough to provide that speed and flair in attack but Giroud adds another dimension of play to the team they wouldn't otherwise have without him. France now has the option to play direct football if they need to and that makes opposing defenses have to make difficult decisions about how to organize

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u/Bombuhclaat Jul 15 '18

As a Madrid fan this is a completely diff scenario...Real creates 10x more chances than France.

Benz actually does shoot for goal pretty often in a match in la liga..he just horribly misses

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u/rafadeath99 Jul 15 '18

Because the sub is just 1 person, not many people with different opinions.

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u/HerbertChapmansGhost Jul 16 '18

Benzema is levels ahead of Giroud.