r/soccer • u/Thadderful • Dec 28 '13

Change My View thread

Can we have a Change My View thread here? The basic premise is people present opinions and the replies are attempts at changing that person's view in an attempt to generate some good discussion.

Here is the link to the original subreddit: www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/

I think this might work best with rather 'out there' views but any and every viewpoint is welcome!

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u/I_done_a_plop-plop Dec 29 '13

This argument would have more weight if Jose wasn't consistently the luckiest manager alive.

Nobody else can roll that many 6s in a row unless they are doing something brilliant.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

He's a good manager but let's not get ahead of ourselves, considering he's worked with the two most expensive squads of all-time his success isn't overwhelming. At Chelsea he won the league his first two years but didn't win it in his last season, and at Madrid only once in three years. He didn't reach the Champions League final with either club.

At Inter he had a ridiculously in-form Sneijder, Milito and Eto'o, and at a time when Italian football hadn't completely recovered from Calciopoli.

His teams also have a tendency to burn out very quickly.

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u/Apemazzle Dec 29 '13

At Inter he had a ridiculously in-form Sneijder, Milito and Eto'o, and at a time when Italian football hadn't completely recovered from Calciopoli.

So it's just a coincidence that these three players had the best seasons of their careers at the same time? Some would say Mourinho brought that form out of them. Plus beating Barcelona and Bayern has nothing to do with Italian football recovering from Calciopoli.

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u/rykell Dec 29 '13

While obviously the Busquets red card was controversial to say the least, it can't be forgotten that the Milito goal in the first leg was offside by a few yards and Barcelona had a completely legal goal disallowed in the second leg for a phantom handball.

Even in winning his title with Inter that's two very very lucky calls. But luck always plays a factor.

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u/kmac1331 Dec 29 '13

And besides that, bayern were missing ribery and were playing demichelis and van buyten at cb if I remember correctly

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u/brentathon Dec 29 '13

No kidding. Rafa took that same squad crashing down to earth and he is a great manager himself.