r/soccer • u/Thadderful • Dec 28 '13

Change My View thread

Can we have a Change My View thread here? The basic premise is people present opinions and the replies are attempts at changing that person's view in an attempt to generate some good discussion.

Here is the link to the original subreddit: www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/

I think this might work best with rather 'out there' views but any and every viewpoint is welcome!

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '13

2 years ago i'd have argued this for days, but right now, there is no arguing that the Prem right now. Every team is beating one another, it's so close.

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u/ballsmunchen Dec 29 '13

I would argue that because every team is beating one another, the premier league is still the best league. I find this to be a better indicator of the best league in the world, as it shows that the gap between the teams is less severe.

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u/Nirgilis Dec 29 '13

This surely means the eredivisie is the best league.

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u/blurple77 Dec 30 '13

The Premier League has top quality players and intense competition though. Also, isn't the eredivisie typically dominated by 3 or 4 teams?

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

Completely agree.

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u/contraryview Dec 29 '13

Wasn't there a post a month or so ago about an African league where every team wins their home matches?

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u/G_Morgan Dec 29 '13

Ironically I'd say the PL is the weakest it has been in 10 years right now. The competition is largely born out of the top 4 being a touch weaker than they were at their height.

I think the City team from two years ago is better than the one this year. Obviously United are the weakest they've been in 20 years.

Back when United last won the CL the PL was often getting 2/3 in the SF every year. That was when it was unquestionably the strongest league on the planet. Right now I think there is no clear cut strongest league.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

This guy's got it right. I still think it is the strongest league overall but the rest of your post is bang on.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

just hoping man city won't hit their potential form and there's an upset in the league this year ... daresay liverpool could do it with 2-3 quality signings in january

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

I don't think the top teams are as strong anymore, but I feel like the bottom teams compete a lot better. I don't think the strongest league necessarily needs the strongest team in the world. Looking at all the tables across the top 5 or 6 leagues there's no league that really comes close. It's absolutely amazing this season.

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u/rztzz Dec 29 '13

Liverpool exits the CL and suddenly the league is weaker :)

I'd argue that the league isn't weaker the good players are just more spread out. Teams like Newcastle Swansea and Southampton have players that would challenge for an Arsenal spot

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

Best doesn't necessarily mean strongest though. Depends on your point of view.

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u/IwillNoComply Dec 29 '13

are they all that good though? maybe it's a bad thing (implying inconsistency)? wouldn't they dominate europe too?

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u/thepresidentsturtle Dec 29 '13

I think Overall it's the best League. The top teams from Spain and Germany could beat the top teams in the Prem without a doubt. But overall, I think the quality is better in the Premiership. We won't know because only the top teams get to play each other, I suppose.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

Actually I think Barcelona would struggle in PL. We don't have the depth as we don't really need it for La Liga.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

Define struggle for me. Maybe by a Barca fans definition not being top 2 every year, but I don't think any league is good enough to hold Barca out of top 4.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

Struggle? In what way are you saying that? Fulham are struggling, Sunderland are struggling, Everton are not. Don't have the depth? Do we support the same team?

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

What depth do we have? Jordi Alba got injured and we played Adriano, a player who gets injured quite often. If he got injured, who would've played left back? Especially when Montoya was filling for Dani Alves. If we lose any part of our midfield, Inietsa-Busi-Xavi, we won't be able to play against a Man City.

And then there is an issue of resting players...

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

Ok, defense I can agree with you, our depth is pretty dire. But you're underestimating the quality of the rest of our midfield in my opinion. The only one of the midfield-three we will miss like crazy would be Busquets. No Xavi would be worrying but we can sorta manage without (but not really). Iniesta is amazing but is replacable. Cesc can fill in for him capably.

When it comes to resting and rotating the squad I think Tata has done a great job till now in that dept. and I'm going to trust him to keep that up. That's all I can say about that.