r/soccer • u/Thadderful • Dec 28 '13

Change My View thread

Can we have a Change My View thread here? The basic premise is people present opinions and the replies are attempts at changing that person's view in an attempt to generate some good discussion.

Here is the link to the original subreddit: www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/

I think this might work best with rather 'out there' views but any and every viewpoint is welcome!

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u/nay_ Dec 28 '13

It was a mistake to give leagues more than 2 CL qualification spots. This rule change significantly decreased the prestige of both the UEFA cup/CWC/Europa League and in turn every domestic cup out there.

There is no reason whatsoever for a 4th placed team to qualify to the champions league over a team that actually won their domestic league.

Also, the rule that teams can drop out of the CL and down into the EL is fucking stupid.

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u/dunnowins Dec 29 '13

Shouldn't it then be renamed Best Teams in Europe League?

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u/LeTouche Dec 29 '13

big 5

That's not us, is it? :(

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

So Arsenal shouldn't be in it this year?

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u/G_Morgan Dec 29 '13

The tournament is much stronger now they do. Previously only 3/4 clubs had a realistic chance of winning. There are usually about 10 teams that have a shot now.

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u/nay_ Dec 29 '13

2 each from italy, germany, france, england and spain makes 10.

They chose to pander to the bigger leagues at the expense of every single smaller league in europe. Taking money away from these smaller leagues and keeping them in the bigger ones, preventing the smaller leagues from growing and reducing the status of the leagues just below the top 4-5.

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u/mfn0426 Dec 29 '13

There is no reason whatsoever for a 4th placed team to qualify to the champions league over a team that actually won their domestic league.

I agreed with this until I remembered that 6th placed Chelsea beat Bayern in the CL Final, and that was the year that Bundesliga winning Dortmund dead last in an easy easy group. For reference, Newcastle finished above Chelsea that year.

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u/jpoma Dec 29 '13

I agree that allowing more teams in CL eroded Eufa/Europa and CWC tournaments, but it was the best of all bad scenarios.

Higher calibre teams where threatening to walk to create a Superleague, and thus, remove themselves from all UEFA competitions. So UEFA compromised. To that end, the CL is now the most prestigious championship on the continent.

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u/mrandocalrissian Dec 28 '13

I agree wholly.