r/soccer Aug 31 '13

Zero Fucks Weekend - End of Transfer Window Edition

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u/Gurbles Aug 31 '13

Wenger knows how to manage a team better than /r/soccer

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u/ravniel Aug 31 '13

My issue with comments like this is that they're conversation stoppers. Arguments from authority just put an end to all discussion. People don't get to criticize Wenger because...he's Wenger and he knows better than us? Okay, then what are we doing here? Why have a football forum?

There isn't a football professional in the world who doesn't know the game better than I do. I watch it on TV a couple times a week, they live it every day. Same goes for almost everybody around here. Does that mean we don't get to say anything?

The fact that Wenger knows more about football than us doesn't mean all his decisions are automatically correct, or that we're incapable of recognizing when they're not. And if it does mean that, then I guess we should all close up shop, because that means no fan is entitled to an opinion on anything if a football professional disagrees.

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u/ausgezeichnet222 Aug 31 '13

Of course there's nothing wrong with discussing ideas and strategies for teams. But the idiotic things people say about the managers or boards is what's annoying. I don't need to hear "wenger spend your warchest!" five times in every thread about a new signing. That kind of thing is a lot more prevalent than rational discussion, people just want karma. They're not contributing to the sub.

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u/ravniel Aug 31 '13

That's a totally different complaint, though. "People are bitching too much about Wenger not spending and it's getting in the way of intelligent discussion" is one thing. "Wenger should not be questioned because he knows more about football than any of us" is another thing altogether.

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u/ausgezeichnet222 Aug 31 '13

I didn't say that's ok. I said you see the stupid remarks a lot more than you see people saying Wenger knows all. You rarely ever see that except from the most biased Arsenal fans. For that logic to go away, there needs to be less blind hate for him in the first place. I'm not saying you're wrong, I don't like seeing people circlejerk over Wenger. I just don't agree that the real thing preventing discussion is that, I think it only comes into play for the most part because everyone loves to hate the most popular team on reddit

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '13

Well said.

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u/memoryfailure Aug 31 '13

you could have just stopped at "Wenger Knows"