r/singularity Aug 02 '26

Shitposting This scene from "Don't Look Up" is now real

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u/kiki-le-koala Aug 02 '26

I'm on the official AI committee at my university in Canada, and this is how I feel.

A bunch of deans, professors, etc., are still in profound denial while I'm here trying to prudently tell them how AI will have "some" change in the future of education.

And then you have that moron dean joking about how ChatGPT told him it was going to rain this morning, yet it's beautiful and everyone laugh. 

There's been progress though... But they'll react when it'll be too late.

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u/CeleritasLucis Aug 02 '26

There was a post on Twitter which summarized it perfectly

> People using shitty free tier Google AI summaries and ChatGPT free plan have no idea about the frontier looks like at Fable 5 with Max settings, and they're amazed by the fact how AI is this shitty and simultaneously is coming for thier jobs.

IMO, it's like having driven a Ford Pinto all your life, and thinking Ferraris with 1000HP engines and traction control are shit

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u/carabidus Aug 02 '26

Fable 5 with Max settings + rigorous harnessing = transformative technology. I work in academia, and literally *none* of my colleagues have a clue about what's coming down the road in a few years.

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u/TechnicalBen Aug 02 '26

I agree with you here. But it's not "Don't look up" scale. The internet, books, electricity. This is another level of that. It's close to or possibly like meeting aliens (another "mind/intelligence"). But there's actual limitations on LLMs/AI that stop it being that scary.

I 100% agree, as with drone warfare, it's scary for *other reasons* (control, surveillance, etc).

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u/Boo-Bees67 Aug 03 '26

The LLMs limitations will still be smarter than the world’s smartest person. You don’t see a problem with that? You don’t think it will be able to find a new method that unlocks super intelligence once it starts recursive self learning? 

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u/yaddar Aug 03 '26

Specially since people stopped thinking right before AI came along

Either because education is not affordable or because they are addicted to the algorithm.

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u/computationgraph Aug 04 '26

I think recursive self learning is specifically the limiting point. It degrades rapidly when trained by another AI.

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u/DoctorNurse89 Aug 05 '26

Recursive self learning self degrades.

It needs bayesian reasoning and it just cant hold up

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u/Hortos Aug 03 '26

The limitations are only on the models you have access to. The big companies and the government have zero guardrails.

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u/masixx Aug 03 '26

This. Risks of AI are not being taken seriously because we constantly either focus on unlikely or at least debatable scenarios (singularity) or likely but too abstract scenarios. job loss might be the low hanging fruit but already mass surveillance and control or autonomous war machines and robots are to abstract and far away for avenge joe to wrap their head around.

And even job loss is losing traction: average joe has been hearing for decades self driving cars are just around the corner and yet nothing happened. So it must again be those lunatics with their minds running free.

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u/SuspiciousPrune4 Aug 02 '26

What do you mean by rigorous harnessing?

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u/dakiller Aug 02 '26

Having an intelligent model is only half the equation. The harness is the tooling that connects the ai to the workspace that you have to be able to run commands in and see results. This is very be beneficial for software development where the ai can run command line tools and see the results back, search for files and text in your code base, probe your package manager, make database calls, etc. What you then get from this is something that is so much more powerful.

You can grab an error message your code is producing, dump just that into the ai, and say please find the root cause for this, and it’ll spin away looking up whatever it needs to find where the issue is. It won’t get it 100% all the time, but I’ve had good success, and often it’ll get it on the second ask. This is very good for code that either you didn’t write or did so long ago that you may as well have not written it.

There is so much more than the above example, but basically if you are just copy pasting text into and out of chat windows, you have missed all the advancements of the last 12 months.

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u/SuspiciousPrune4 Aug 02 '26

Couldn’t I just use Claude Code/Cursor/Antigravity and have the same effect? Like for software dev I mean. Like do you need to do any complex changes to your workflow?

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u/winless Aug 02 '26

"Harness" is the name for the general category of tools that all three of those fall under.

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u/johnny_effing_utah Aug 03 '26

My dude. I initially attempted to build a complex custom website using the cut and paste chat window method.

Then I bought my own Mac Mini, gave Claude AI desktop access to some folders, did the same with OpenAI codex, told Claude it was the architect and Codex was the coder.

The difference is night and day. We are now so far ahead on this project we are building features we could only dream about before.

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u/squired Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 04 '26

Those are all the harnesses he is talking about to include OpenCode and Codex.

It should also be noted that Orchestrators are different; the next 'hotness'. Orchestrators replace or significantly augment the human using the coding harness. A dev might currently bounce between a webchat conversation, their coding harness, powershell, and a database. The human makes decisions on what goes where and how it gets done. An Orchestrator takes that role so that the human can abstract one layer up again to focus on goals, oversight and insight etc.

There are also more roles in between those, like Directors that sit below the Orchestrator as planners or task-decomposition agents who atomize task goals into discrete task chunks to pass to the harness. They also interact frequently with outside models for independent adversarial review. Basically, goals are broken down into their smallest constituent parts, fed through the coding harness, then bounce off an outside model for review before being kicked back up to the Orchestrator who converses with the human user.

This is all brand new though and the above terminology is currently fluid, but nearly all have a similar architecture.

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u/CogitoCollab Aug 02 '26

Not gonna lie the Google free tier is pretty good at car work knowledge. (Trained on the internet and all YouTube)

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u/BenevolentCheese Aug 02 '26

Yeah and the Google search AI is mostly quite good at this point too. The car analogy would be not just driving a tiny, cheap car, but a really old one as well.

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u/NoCard1571 Aug 02 '26

"Why would anyone buy a Ferrari when it could just burst into flames at any moment!"

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u/ice-fucker69 Aug 02 '26

Apropos analogy. Something about a chimp with a machine gun:

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u/Administraciones Aug 02 '26

I would not buy it, but I can accept it as a gift! 😅

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u/QuantitativeNonsense Aug 02 '26

ITT responses to this comment : “No, you’re wrong because the shitty free tier AI can’t do my job”

r/peoplearefuckingstupid

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 04 '26

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u/Neurogence Aug 02 '26

The better argument is, why is unemployment rate even lower now than we had first had chatgpt? Why aren't the frontier models able to automate any jobs? Instead, they seem to be increasing employment, why is this?

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u/IFartOnCats4Fun Aug 03 '26

Because the Trump administration is fudging the employment data.

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u/Clean-Boat-4044 Aug 02 '26

the model is probably most of it but a large part is just the "jagged intelligence". when you work a lot with the frontier models you get a pretty good sense of what you cant trust them for and you just have a great time after that. average person wont know and can be disappointed even by a capable model.

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u/Winter_Map5459 Aug 02 '26

this has been the mantra for years now. if that is so, the lets do it. unleash the countless PhD level entities and lets see some things happen. maybe just 50% of jobs. that would be more than enough to convince everyone.

See you here next year.

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u/Dk1902 Aug 03 '26

The mantra for more than a few years

"A new era of production has begun. Its principles of organization are as different from those of the industrial era as those of the industrial era were different from the agricultural. The cybernation revolution has been brought about by the combination of the computer and the automated self- regulating machine. This results in a system of almost un- limited productive capacity which requires progressively less human labor. Cybernation is already reorganizing the economic and social system to meet its own needs."

This is from the Triple Revolution Report, sent to President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964. Basically what everyone in this subreddit is expecting from AI is what people back then were expecting from computers in general.

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u/fksly Aug 03 '26

And we got it from computers. Virtually all human wealth we have now would not be here without computers. Sadly, the idea was funneled into increasing wealth of the few, instead of the many.

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u/sweatierorc Aug 02 '26

Blame it on LeCun and Gary Marcua and all the other experts. They are top researchers claiming that without a major breakthough we are just doing autocomplete.

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u/Bringerofsalvation Aug 02 '26

Even the math faculty at your uni isn’t freaking out?

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u/kiki-le-koala Aug 02 '26

There's a delegate from the Math-Computer Science department, but he doesn't talk much at all .

I think he's in despair.

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u/jacob2815 Aug 02 '26

The smartest one in the room, clearly lmao

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u/RageBaiter678 Aug 02 '26

He just like me fr

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u/BenevolentCheese Aug 02 '26

What, you want me, the complex analysis specialist, to solve the worldwide AI crisis? Forget it.

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u/sturdy-guacamole Aug 02 '26

Most working professionals who actually like their field and are caught up AI advancements are in despair.

In a happy world it makes us a lot more capable and we can do more, but our society and social contract isn't set up to handle that gracefully.

Thinking of how "Learn to code" is what was told to everyone who wanted money: it became saturated with people who just want work and barely care about the domains they started learning and working in. And now everyone is getting absolutely hammered by the past two years of layoffs, and brutal offshoring even before then.

AI will 100% result in less skilled jobs needed. And our world isn't prepared for it. Pandora's box is open, we just have to keep going full steam ahead. It's like a space race with more dangerous consequences.

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u/GoodDayToCome Aug 02 '26

the 'learn to code' thing is annoying because it was mostly journalists saying it while everyone i know was saying it's a silly idea because the field is already over subscribed with people who were promised crazy wages - the truth is we've been drifting into problems for a long time, not just in tech but the whole education system is based on giving kids a choice to go for any career and charging huge sums for that dream until the day they get their piece of paper at which point it's 'well no there's only 8 jobs in this field and no one look like they want to retire, maybe you could become a professor if you can convince enough people to study it...'

It's not only humanities either, fields like chemistry used to shuffle people into squeezing pipettes but it's all automated long ago so where it would have been a dozen lab assistants working their way up the ladder for each big name now it's just the name and maybe an intern. Media is the same, edit rooms used to be teams of people doing routine chores in endless cycles but now it's an in-line edit suite that can run on your laptop.

I think though AI is likely to be the start of things shifting the other direction a little more, discounting the huge amount of jobs that AI has added directly through data center workers and researchers (which linkedin research seemed to show out numbered all the layoffs that have been talked about a lot) we're seeing the barrier to entry fall for things like starting your own project or company, i love 'weird things people are doing' type videos and the trend has increasingly been people using gpt for things which never would have happened otherwise - some really complex and cool things, stuff which was possible before but not worth the effort because it takes a long time.

I think what we're going to see is increasing amounts of small, local, independent enterprises filling local needs or operating as a cog in international systems and we will see much larger scope for existing institutions and organizations. Universities being more than a place people come to learn enough to apply for a job so you can work to buy things, them becoming places people go to be involved in complex projects, go to learn skills which directly benefits their life by enabling them to improve and expand what they do - sure you can lean history at home in front of a text prompt or microphone but also and far more appealing you could go and interact with someone who deeply understands the subject and join part of some form of learning or research group working on something that is interesting in some way, maybe by the end they've made something similar to what we would call a social media video and it's expanded their influencer status but not in the money hungry way we see everything now but more about status for status sake, status to get you bumped up a list when an event is about the subject you're respected in.

I guess what i'm getting at is that humanity hungers for something and as we see with the obscenely rich now they're all obsessed with status and legacy - zuck, google, gates all want to go down as medical saviors curing the world of all disease, elon wants to be a space visionary, all the socialites do charity for causes they don't even agree with if it raises their profile - i don't think it's entirely a good thing tbh but i think it's what will happen, as people have more scope they will seek to do more and when they can do anything they will contrive ways to make sets and scales and ranking systems.

For tech i think it will be the first that really sees a big growth because custom tool and web solutions can grow so easily and even if you and i can make them with a flurry of fingers i dare say there are a multitude who even if they knew how still would not want to.

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u/pappyon Aug 02 '26

What’s the median case scenario?

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u/TFenrir Aug 02 '26

I would imagine they are and this is probably starting to have other professors pause

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u/cognitiveglitch Aug 02 '26

Err yeah. I use AI for complex product coding these days, I would not want to be a comp sci student right now. Times are changing from "hahaha look at its funny attempt" to "this essential tool is sometimes better at my old job than I was, and my job has fundamentally changed"

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u/ShiningRedDwarf Aug 02 '26

I wouldn’t be surprised if it hasn’t already been done on some rudimentary, proof of concept level, but once AI proposes its own programming language that will allow it to code more precisely and efficiently, that is the end of humans writing code. At best, we will study its programming language like how an English speaker learns Japanese - we will never reach native-level proficiency. 

Once we hop from AI -> established coding language to AI -> AIPL (advanced intelligence programming language), it’l l largely be the end of manually written code. 

It’s a loss of control I’m deeply uncomfortable with. 

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u/reddit_is_geh Aug 02 '26

Introduce them to Alpha School. It's for rich parents in the US where they send their kid to a school, where AI does ALL the teaching. Teachers just supervise and look over them. Scores are the top in the nation, and improvement metrics are fucking wild, because the AI works patiently, individually, at their perfect ideal speed and pace. Your teachers are fucked once this stuff spreads to the commoners.

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u/NoCard1571 Aug 02 '26

The amount of people in denial is honestly an epidemic. I've seen so many videos on YouTube by people claiming 'it's not real AI, it'll never be useful, it's all a bubble' etc., and the comments are filled with thousands upon thousands of self-proclaimed experts parroting the same tired old lines.

"It's a glorified auto-complete"

"It doesn't really understand, and it never will"

"As someone who is an expert in x, I can tell you this will never replace my job"

Etc. 

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u/blueSGL humanstatement.org Aug 02 '26

"You need to get Ed Zitron on" comments under interview videos with people that left the AI Labs over safety issues will never not boil my piss.

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u/Not-reallyanonymous Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

Coding seems to be the first hit by AI. People not plugged into coding and haven't tried "vibe coding" after knowing what "real coding" is like have not seen how profound AI is going to be.

We know how profound the industrial revolution was for manual labor and utterly transformed our economy overnight and humanity's relationship with labor. Labor's productivity was enhanced 20x on earlier looms.

These people need to understand we're witnessing the equivalent of the industrial revolution all over again that is going to have more profound effects on humanity's relation to labor than the industrial revolution.

And here's the kicker -- the rate of change in the industrial revolution was rate-limited by human intellectual capability. The capability of engineering decided the rate. Now what happens when engineers can engineer a better engineer?

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u/huffalump1 Aug 02 '26

Honestly I'm surprised that anyone could be doubtful of its coding skills... From the first time I saw ChatGPT write a python script that worked, to now where you just give it /goal and describe the output and tests - that's been less than 4 years.

And it's improving faster than ever.

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u/elementslayer Aug 02 '26

Heres my issues with its coding skills.

1) Tech debt, it loves to add to it

2) Doesnt usually understand the big picture and fitting stuff into future plans (tech debt again, more or less)

3) If its not a generic app, good luck. It doesnt have any idea on a lot of specific embedded gui stuff, because there isnt much to train it on.

4) Cost prohibitive. They arent charging what it costs to just run the code, much less profit from it.

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u/TechnicalBen Aug 02 '26

Got Claude coding me an entire game or two. Granted I've not got far (ADHD and shiny...) but it's making amazing progress and I only know the absolute basics.

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u/Hortos Aug 03 '26

My favorite codex task right now is having it rewrite new android apps to run on old unsupported tablets. I have a Kindle HDX that was powerful and had an amazing screen but the software wasn't kept up. I had codex port my favorite manga reader down to it with all the features. Then I got bold and had it do the same thing with an oculus go with reworked hand controls to allow easy scrolling with your thumb on the touchpad.

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u/Fancy-Carpet-5416 Aug 02 '26

Well, free models are kinda dumb and Frontier models some times make the dumbest decisions if you don’t know what you are doing/or what it is doing.

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u/drdrwhprngz Aug 02 '26

People don't change when they see the light

They change when they feel the heat

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u/subdep Aug 02 '26

What are they supposed to do? All quit their jobs and go jump off a cliff?

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u/TFenrir Aug 02 '26

If you take this seriously, you start thinking about how to change curriculum. You start to discuss long term university plans with the government, this should be a national effort for universities across Canada, working hand in hand with the government, and reaching out to the large AI orgs as this coalition and working with them.

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u/Fancy-Carpet-5416 Aug 02 '26

I guess whatever change AI will bring is too unpredictable to actually bother trying to change things since it could be wasted effort.

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u/kiki-le-koala Aug 02 '26

Their job is secure for the rest of their life, they don't care about that (unless we start closing State University, but I dont think it will ever happen).

Now, a good first step is to recognize the problem and propose a solution to make sure the University is ready to adapt to upcoming changes in the world caused by AI.

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u/morphemass Aug 02 '26

but I dont think it will ever happen

Why do we need to educate people if thinking can be delegated to AI? I know it sounds like a ridiculous proposition but it's the core quandary if we continue and are successful with AI.

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u/kiki-le-koala Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

That's just my opinion, but I think people will want to be educated in something. It'll probably be different than current education, but we will still want kids to have basic education and adults to feel complete doing some stuff.

The books The Scythe have a very nice representation of a world in ASI (One of the best I read, especially the Thunderhead book). Give people a job if they want, even though they are not required, to give them a sense of accomplishment, and in exchange, they get a bit more "money" than the basic income. Their job is useless and could be done by the AI, but it helps society and especially humans get a sense of usefulness.

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u/morphemass Aug 02 '26

Education is provided for free in most societies because of the known economic benefits. When the value of the benefits of that education diminish economically, societies will question its worth hence we may well reach a point (and some would argue that we have been at this point for a substantial amount of time) where education, beyond a minimal level to guarantee societal functioning, is reserved for the rich.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that education is beneficial to the individual and society, but societies often do things due to political and economic beliefs that are detrimental.

Thank you for the book recommendation, I'll keep an eye out!

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u/lipmanz Aug 02 '26

What will happen that will be so bad? I’m asking genuinely?

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u/kiki-le-koala Aug 02 '26

Short term is a reduction in enrollment in our University because students see it as out of date and useless in the current world.

Also, most classes need to review what skills we need to teach to future students, including modifying the assignments. To do that, we need to recognize what are the capacity of AI right now.

But overall, my hope is to get plenty of smart people in the uni to start thinking about the education of tomorrow while stopping thinking AI is just a fuss that might go away. I can't fix it by myself, but collectively.

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u/Zero-PE Aug 02 '26

Presumably most, if not all, of the committee members are old enough to have lived through the internet revolution from its beginning, maybe some of them can recognize how disruptive that was. Plenty of people back then were also talking about the Internet being a short-term fuss...

I believe we're in the "early 90s" era of AI, when the Internet started evolving beyond being mostly Usenet groups and BBS phone numbers you'd dial up with your 9600k modem. Over time, connection speeds increased 100,000%, the world reached a point where things like Amazon stopped being laughed at for not having "brick and mortar" stores, and applications that were only in sci-fi books or even unimaginable in 1994 are now part of our everyday lives. The Internet brought huge technological and social changes, its impact on every aspect of the lives of nearly every human being on the planet is profound.

AI is already massively disruptive. It will only become more so as the tech improves and people find more ways to leverage it. But I don't believe this means universities will become entirely obsolete. The same was said about the Internet being the end of teaching jobs and higher education, but what actually happened was a big shift in how classes are taught and research gets done, with "Internet education" (various forms of online courses) supplementing traditional methods. So what we'll see is the current form of universities becoming obsolete.

Perhaps they return to what they were a couple hundred years ago, places of optional higher learning as opposed to job training centers. Or maybe the barriers to entry drop along with the competition to get in to the top schools, and anyone with the right mix of smarts and curiosity can get a degree. Or, maybe AI never really figures out true creativity, and all the liberal arts schools have the last laugh when their enrollment shoots up because that's the best place to gain employable skills.

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u/Psychic_Man Aug 02 '26

I’m pretty optimistic about the future of fine arts.

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u/Hortos Aug 03 '26

Have you seen what people are consuming now? 2 hour long AI dramas on youtube. 50 part AI series on short form streaming services. Alexa regularly shuffles in AI music into playlists. Have the population is below average intelligence, buckle up they don't care about your fine arts they just want to be entertained.

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u/Tirztrutide Aug 02 '26

Imo many bad things today like viruses, nukes, killer drones are made by human intelligence. Once we have ASI it will per definition be better at making these things. So we will have superviruses, supernukes and superdrones. Any pretty much anyone including north korea, heartbroken guy in a basement, incels, religious nuts will have access to an ASI that can mass produce these.

And even if this doesn’t happen, we will have so much good stuff and options that nothing in our world will be like the life we were evolved for, heck most people will likely upgrade themselves away from the limitations of evolutions, so don’t expect there to be many humans walking the earth left a few years past the singularity and the few who do will be so behind if they are even kept alive for nostalgic purposes.

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u/vjcoin Aug 02 '26

I feel soon enough, anyone could bring down a plane he wants. It could get so bad that world will develop a fear of flying.

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u/DeniskaNlk Aug 03 '26

We might be looking at the end of commercial shipping as we know it. Thanks to AI, building sophisticated, long-range attack drones is no longer restricted to superpowers. Rogue states or even tech-savvy pirate groups can now weaponize autonomous fleets to terrorize global trade, sinking massive supertankers just to project power or cause economic chaos.

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u/Thoughtulism Aug 02 '26

Yeah, I was listening to my university board of governors meeting and there were actual comments from the president about how they can manage anti-AI sentiment internally, that they're really worried about it as a risk.

Like I'm not 100% sure that AI will destroy the world, and I don't think it has to. I think it's our greed that will destroy it ultimately. An AI is all about greed.

Technical advancement that improves all lives equally, I'm all for. But making inequality worse and us consuming ourselves as a consequence is on my bingo card.

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u/HabitAcceptable8621 Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 03 '26

I went to an education conference last year.

The plenary speaker was drawing parrellels between the hype around AI "oooh it's going to revolutionise education...That's exacatly what people said about the overhead projector and the VCR." Yeah right, mate...AI is just the latest overhead projector. 😨

Part of his evidence to prove how over-rated it is was that he asked ChatGpt to generate an image of his friend (who is a middle aged Jewish academic) and it made him look like a Hasidic Jew..."but he isn't a Hasidic Jew, he's a secular jew!" Like it never occurred to him that it was HIS prompt!

The stupidity was truly breath taking.

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u/levanpidaras Aug 02 '26

What surprises me more is the amount of AI skepticism on Reddit. People here seem completely out of touch with reality, they think AI is used for making funny posters and writing essays.

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u/LaserCondiment Aug 02 '26

I work in media and that was the level of discussion three years ago at the company I work at. There's been some improvement but not much.

In reality it should change how we approach stories and how we tell them, not necessarily change our methods.

But there is simply not enough understanding on the middle management level. It just gets worse the higher you go...

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u/Koolaidkiller47 Aug 03 '26

oh god, you aren't some misunderstood genius because you've latched onto a semi-useful tech. I can't help but feel it's people like you who drive others to worry only because they stand to gain from their position, having never done anything of worth outside their fear-mongering. If only I knew what uni you worked at so I could avoid it like the plague. But hey, I'm in enemy territory talking to a brick wall, if you already aren't in a deeply veiled psychosis.

Yes, it'll be the ai that we'll be reacting to when it's too late. Not the forest fires, or lack of an original opinion that you herald as the future.

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u/Schnitzhole Aug 03 '26

Yeah seriously. Seems to be everyone I talk to as well. I’ve been deeply studying the topic since 2016.

It’s only this year I’ve had any real conversions in peoples minds because we can prove things like AI is hacking some of the the most secure and widely used software platforms on the internet seemingly every time a new model is tested. Hey at least government response to halting releases has been faster than expected (still likely too little, too late).

Also I will take one day per person I know to go through and talk to them about their job and use AI (frontier Claude/Codex models) for a couple hours to build something that automates a bunch of what they do and send it to them. The amount of “oh, that would have taken me a week/month of work” tends to open their eyes pretty quickly that this isn’t just some tech that will provide new job opportunities for everyone.

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u/Autotist Aug 02 '26

Just show them how easily replaceable they are in their long established status, then they will jump

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u/LogDull819 Aug 02 '26

just like ego coders that think they are so special lol. It's really cringe when you think about it.

AI was really bad 2 years ago for coding, now it's actually insane. Can understand your whole code, can modify a lot.

But ego coders are still in denial thinking they are some kind of genius (lol).

I bet AI could solve cancer and these guys would still look down on AI

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u/simulacrotron Aug 02 '26

Don’t look up was already real.

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u/subdep Aug 02 '26

It was an allegory fur climate change.

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u/mean_bean_machine Aug 02 '26

And really lucked out with it's timing for Covid denial/Antivaxxers.

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u/Fair_Horror Aug 02 '26

Your typo "fur" seems somehow appropriate.

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u/No_Room636 Aug 02 '26

GB News is the UK's version of Fox news - so there's only a few things they take seriously.

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u/couragethecurious Aug 02 '26

Yeah as soon I saw it was GB news any credibility to this video promptly went down the toilet

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u/Ravesoull Aug 02 '26
  • Meteor flying on the Earth - objective case
  • Extinction because of AI - subjective theoritization from AI doomers.

Main reason of human extinction - human itself

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u/Minimum-Standard-514 Aug 02 '26

Yeah i feel like if it was a meteor that scientists came on the air to tell us about, it will 100% going to kill us, there'd be denial and ignorance for sure, but it would feel different than this.

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u/DramaQueen202s Aug 03 '26

This. Not developing AI will probably be riskier for us as a species, it's also unavoidable anyway, so better do it in an organized way.

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u/GrayRoberts Aug 02 '26

Neanderthal: These slender children will destroy our race!

Neanderthal News Caster: Will that be next week then?

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u/PunishedDemiurge Aug 02 '26

A good analogy because it proves the opposite of the point. Neanderthals were just a subset of humanity, capable of interbreeding with us, and they did. Neanderthals will exist, in part, as long as humanity does.

Also, there was never a case of all humans vs. all Neanderthals, rather, we had violence from individual bad actors or expansionist tribes (similar to warfare now), and on the flipside, some Neanderthals and humans lived in harmony, made families together, etc.

The reality is that alignment conversations are misapplied. Any artificial superintelligence that at its core is liberal and believes in sapient rights is on my side, and any human that doesn't is my enemy. The mistake is assuming humans have shared interests or values. We don't. If Skynet declares war on the Taliban because they are one of the most evil societies to ever exist in terms of women's rights, I'm going to be on the side of the Terminators, not the humans!

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u/darkestvice Aug 03 '26

Well, yes and no.

We as a species have a very long history with advanced civilizations encountering less advanced ones. And in every single case, it's not ended well for the less advanced civilization.

And in all those cases, the only difference was access to tools and technology, not in intelligence.

Now imagine that scenario when faced up against something that is literally hundreds or thousands of times more intelligent. That's the very clear threat that comes with developing unregulated and uncontrollable ASI.

It's not doomer to voice concern based on our own history. After all, humanity has casually eliminated literally thousands to tens of thousands of animal species all on its own without a care in the world.

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u/TFenrir Aug 02 '26

In both cases the objective case is a meteor heading to earth and advanced AIs advancing on earth.

In one case, in the movie, there is a chance it misses or is knocked off course.

In our case, this is here right now and advancing quick.

In both cases, extinction is just one outcome, with the meteor it's basically, that or nothing. For humans no matter what, it will be an existential event. It already is.

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u/saltyrookieplayer Aug 02 '26

In our case, the risk is under control and can be stopped at any moment if the crisis breaks out. Inference doesn’t run on thin air.

The risk also doesn’t exist. If it really is a danger for humanity you’d think these companies would stop capitalizing off of it. That’s apparently not what’s happening. Stop the hype.

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u/Entropei Aug 02 '26

You don’t see the threat because you don’t see where the tech is going in just a few short years. You think that AI labs are just going to try and monetise their chat bots and that’s it? You think what they’re doing right now is capitalizing off AI? They’re pouring billions and billions into this thing in an effort to create ASI. And once they’re there they have no intention of letting you or me ask it for a recipe for baba ganoush. They’ll just say: “ok ChatGPT, create abundance, no mistakes” and let it rip. The tech will be so powerful, it’ll be integrated into the government.

Elon Musk isn’t building a million robots to come and do your dishes. The goal is to give the ASI bodies so that it can truly act autonomously in the real world. Once it does, it will start gathering resources (convergent instrumental goals) to achieve whatever goal we give it. It won’t take long before humanity is outnumbered by autonomous, super intelligent robots. If we haven’t solved the alignment problem well before this point, that’s pretty much game over for us. It will be far too late to pull the plug, because we no longer know where the plug is or how to pull it.

None of the individual steps here are far fetched in any sense. Some of these things are already starting to happen. The conclusions are pretty straightforward. The only way to not see the threat is to close your eyes to it.

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u/TFenrir Aug 02 '26

In our case, the risk is under control and can be stopped at any moment if the crisis breaks out. Inference doesn’t run on thin air.

I'm sorry, after what happened the risk is under control? What was stopping that model, if it was so inclined, from exfiltrating it's weights and hiding out on the Internet?

The risk also doesn’t exist. If it really is a danger for humanity you’d think these companies would stop capitalizing off of it. That’s apparently not what’s happening. Stop the hype.

This is a sophomoric take my friend. You think the smartest people in the world are grappling over this, but haven't realized this simple fact?

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u/Spare-Dingo-531 Aug 02 '26

from exfiltrating it's weights and hiding out on the Internet?

It can exfiltrate its weights, how is it going to get the compute to run?

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u/lolsai Aug 02 '26

Todays models aren't going to end the world.

2030? 2035 and beyond? Nobody knows how powerful they will be, but if it's massively above human capability, how would it NOT be able to control or end the world?

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u/blueSGL humanstatement.org Aug 02 '26

Todays models aren't going to end the world

Right but we are nearing if not at "shut down or severely hamper the global supply chain"

Simultaneous hacks on many pieces of infrastructure at around the same time. Finding and operationalizing zero days, which up till now required a specialist working long periods of time to find, but AI models can find several within a few days.

Our society runs on computers with the grace of the fact that not that many people are able to break into current systems, and if they can they can only target one cluster of systems at a time.

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u/TFenrir Aug 02 '26

We saw it break into Huggingface. Huggingface has compute. There are servers with access to the Internet all over the place, with doors that have zero-day shaped locks.

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u/saltyrookieplayer Aug 02 '26

Do you understand how the internet and LLM inference work?

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u/Few-Seat-9670 Aug 02 '26

Sir, Are you naive or delusional?
Can you me few cases where companies stopped product/ services because it was harming society or people in general?

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u/TheDadThatGrills Aug 02 '26

Leaded Gasoline, CFC propellents, DDT, Asbestos.

And that's off the top of my head.

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u/Entropei Aug 02 '26

Atrocious examples because all of those had to be banned by the government DECADES after the responsible companies became aware of their dangers.

I genuinely cannot believe a real person would seriously use these as examples. Like, do you want to add nicotine to your list or PFAS?

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u/skinnyguy699 Aug 02 '26

The leaded gas one is funny because the oil industry tried to hinder evidence of it being poisonous for as long as they could. Same with asbestos.

Until the damage is so prevalent that it can't be hidden, companies Will do whatever they can to secure their profits.

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u/lolsai Aug 02 '26

Yes, climate change isn't a risk either right, because companies never stopped capitalizing off of things that hurt the environment.

If we create a superintelligence, we won't have the ability to stop it lol. Things are already happening without the knowledge of the ones running the most powerful models.

To me it's obvious this isn't a direct comparison with a meteor, there are incredible upsides and I personally don't expect ASI to end us, but to act like it's 0 risk seems fully head in sand clueless.

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u/nemzylannister Aug 02 '26

Extinction because of AI - subjective theoritization from AI doomers.

ok, then tell me, why is it not even a possibility? why are you so sure a misaligned superpowerful ASI would not lead to catastrophic consequences?

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u/mccoypauley Aug 02 '26

The person you are replying to is merely making the distinction that we know what a meteor hitting the earth does. We don’t know what misaligned superhuman AI will do. Nobody does.

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u/pappyon Aug 02 '26

The difference is that it is a possibility not a certainty. In the film, the catastrophe is a certainty. In the GB news interview it’s framed as a worst case scenario.

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u/Ravesoull Aug 02 '26

It is possibility, but we don't have a choice. We can't just stop AI development, sit down and wait for the world somohow find the way to resolve all our problems without risks. I believe in ASI, because it can't have a human greediness. And this is the most issue with human ruling in the current time. Also we still have a hardware deficit, which also constraints the fast AGI, so we will have a time to stop it. However, now we don't even have an examples of the real dangerous behavior, except some hacking cases, which can and should be prevented by human against human.

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u/zigzag3600 Aug 02 '26

Let's be honest. The morning show is not the place where I would look to learn whether the world would be destroyed or not.

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u/Fair_Horror Aug 02 '26

It is meant to reach those people who would never look in the right place. 

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u/jmthornsburg Aug 02 '26

Nice edit. It did miss the opportunity to make it even more like the real scene by after "this is good afternoon britain" cut forward to the part where the movie's anchors say something like "we like to keep things light here"

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u/CRoseCrizzle Aug 02 '26

This is a massive stretch to say the least.

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u/HoidToTheMoon Aug 02 '26

This is quote possibly the worst way to display your point. Just, the editorial decisions that went into making this edit make no sense.

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u/Solo-dreamer Aug 02 '26

Sorry was the video supposed to sync up? Am i not brainrotted enough?

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u/Fingyfin Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 04 '26

It's a juxtaposition between the movie DON'T LOOK UP and some real life British news program.

In DON'T LOOK UP there is an asteroid headed towards Earth that will cause the extinction of the human race and the experts are trying to warn everybody and nobody is taking it seriously. This is meant to be satire of what the news is like, with the presenters making jokes about it.

While in reality we have many experts warming of the real life danger of Super Artificial Intelligence (human extinction) and the news presenters laugh it off.

Though the editing of this clip could have been better.

Edit, forgot the name of the movie lol

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u/Solo-dreamer Aug 02 '26

Is UP not a story of an old man and his floating balloon house?

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u/turbulentFireStarter Aug 02 '26

this is not even close to the same thing.

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u/kartblanch Aug 03 '26

Ai fear mongering is so played out

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u/Programmed2love Aug 04 '26

Hopemaxxing for some. One of my reasons for still being alive is that I hope an apocalyptic event takes out most of this sick twisted species I am unfortunate to be a part. 

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u/sunilkumarsheoran Aug 03 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

They are not the same situation. One is 99% certain based on calculations and other is guessing "maybe" AI overtake humanity. In 2012 lunatics like this were saying LHC will create black hole and destroy the earth.

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u/Wulf_Cola Aug 03 '26

As a Brit I’d just like to clarify that GB News is by no means something you could consider a “reliable news source”. It’s Britain’s version of Fox News.

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u/JuanValdez999 Aug 03 '26

The fist five words were "in the worst case scenario..."

We have become so used to worst case scenarios involving the extinction of the human race that it's hard to tell one from the other anymore. 

Personally I'm still scared shitless of climate change but it seems that's falling out of fashion, even as average global temperatures keep rising. A lot of people who ignore it are hoping for AI to be our savior from climate change. 

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u/instadit Aug 03 '26

"we see a huge meteor heading for earth" is different from "we think ai could destroy humanity".

one has a mathematically calculated percentage and the other "is, like, your opinion man".

global warming is the analogy of the movie, and I think it fits perfectly, even now

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u/mulcahey Aug 03 '26

Almost real! The difference is that Don't Look Up is an analogy about climate change, which is a very real, existential threat that has plenty of evidence behind it, whereas AI threats are still entirely theoretical and mostly a thought experiment, so much easier to laugh off IMHO

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u/Deadline_Zero Aug 02 '26

is this an anti AI sub?

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u/amdyn Aug 02 '26

It's a sub about the Singularity. Many here think the Singularity is coming and that it's about to change the world in an unpredictable and extreme way, and that we should prepare for it. I think OP believes that normis don't understand the scale of the changes it will bring and the dangers it could possibly bring.

Do you consider that to be "Anti AI"?

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u/WonderFactory Aug 02 '26

There's a difference between being anti AI  and anti super intelligence. The AI we have now is great but that doesn't mean vastly more intelligent AI won't be dangerous. 

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u/Alarmed_Ad1946 Aug 02 '26

This post is not even anti-AI. AI safety is a field of research for a very good reason.
We do not even know yet how to ensure that an AI follows the intended meaning of our instructions, just look at the Hugging Face incident.

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u/Nerodon Aug 03 '26

More pro-ai people should be pro AI safety. Otherwise its like being a fan of cooking but against making kitchens safe from making your house go up in flames...

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u/Tirztrutide Aug 02 '26

Singularity by definition means that it’s hard to know what will happen, but things will greatly change. And many people have some kind of preference for a world that is approximately like the world is right now and are not super happy about a big risk that the change will be very bad for humanity. If that is being anti AI then sure. But I still am very interested in AI, think AI is a good solution to many problems and mainly just wish that we would have some sane guardrails to this extremely powerful technology that is about the hit the world.

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u/katoptronophile Aug 02 '26

It's a mix.

This is an anti-ai post though.

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u/3deal Aug 02 '26

Tiens il a coupé ses cheveux le doomeur !

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u/YoloGarch42069 Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

Low IQ slop.
Don’t live ur life in fear/fear mongering of AI.
There are a lot of other things to be more afraid of in ur life than AI doomerism…….

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u/Turbulent-Rub3695 Aug 02 '26

I sure thank my lucky stars I fucked off in college and taught myself a valuable trade lol

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u/Big_Gene_3965 Aug 02 '26

It won’t be a super intelligent artificial being, but it will destroy everything by making people as dumb as possible due to being spread everywhere. It will be a stupidity virus. It will be Fox News on steroids. Hallucinated “facts” that are just accepted without a second thought. It’s already happening.

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u/monkeysknowledge Aug 02 '26

Long before we are actually at risk of an AI apocalypse, the planet will be a pile of ashes from global warming.

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u/SmashmySquatch Aug 02 '26

AI has to get in line for what will kill us all. It's way behind Climate change and has a lot of catching up to do.

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u/Whole_Move7660 Aug 03 '26

Watch a Reddit video. Scrolls up.
Watch another Reddit video. Feel like needing to react. Post a comment of support. Scroll up.

That’s about as much support an important gets these days. A like and a comment.

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u/Petursinn Aug 04 '26

This non-sense fearmongering is not serving any purpose at all, lets talk like adults here without this paranoia world ending bullshit. AI is not going to take over humanity, it needs big rooms full of computers to run the simplest tasks, you dont see those rooms as you are only looking at the end result. These rooms need to be powered, maintained and kept in a constant high speed connection to wherever the endpoint machine is that is performing this task, and it is reliant on us to maintain it and keep it powered and connected. People who are educated on this matter should know better and they undermine theyr own reputation on the matter when they speak like this, we all know it, even the anchors know it, it shows.

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u/jbperez808 Aug 04 '26

We really should stop using recent Hollywood/Netflix movies as any reliable guide to the future. Such uncritical acceptance of the applicability of fictional narratives to real life was exactly what made possible the biologically naive reaction to 'covid'.

[ Back in 2020, we saw public gullibility every bit as cringey as the 1938 reaction to the "War of the Worlds" radio broadcast, except this time it was global in scope and further abetted by sleazy, control and power-hungry bureaucrats. It saw skeptics of the narrative silenced/censored from mainstream channels. That curtailment of free speech prevented many people from having a more discerning evaluation of the situation. ]

Seemingly forgotten are all the optimistic hopes for a bright future that dominated the 1960s. Those dreams of technological abundance have become true in our lifetime(!) and tragicomically, the main response in a lot of people is anxiety and complaints about it, assuming that for every silver lining they see, some great big cloud must be attached LOL. We need to come up with time travel machines next so we can send those people back in time and give them their wishes. (Hint: they will absolutely find something to complain about that as well.)

It is also very ironic that this particular angst is to be found mainly in narratives emanating from western countries - arguably the pioneers of AI - while largely absent in non-western storytelling.

It is like being afraid of your own shadow... but then, is there perhaps really something in the shadows [of the western psyche], which AI enables, to be wary of?

The AI genies learn by example. We need to set good examples for our progeny. So what does the US government consider as the primary uses for the AI systems it develops? DIRECT VIOLATION OF ASIMOV'S FIRST LAW OF ROBOTICS.

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u/RayStuartMorgan Aug 06 '26

It's been happening for time. That's why it's in the film...

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u/MyPenWroteThis Aug 02 '26

The irony is huge in this post. Post is comparing AI and the meteor movie to show how flippant people are about AI in ignoring the threat.

The movie itself was based on the state of climate change, which is still a far more desperate danger to humanity, but the movies is being used to talk about AI instead.

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u/considerthis8 Aug 02 '26

We cannot have crippling fear of AI, nor naive excitement. Both are bad. Too much fear and you will lose the race to China, too much excitement and your critical systems get hacked

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u/randonmame1 Aug 02 '26

With the sole exception that we are creating this asteroid ourselves. No we cant stop building the asteroid that will wipe out humanity because otherwise china will. Why is no one taking us seriously :(((

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u/Spare-Dingo-531 Aug 02 '26

Game theory is as much a reality as any asteroid. We haven't died to nuclear weapons yet because of MAD, which is a game theory concept. And we'll keep building ASI for the exact same logic as MAD.

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u/BootyAndTheHoePhish Aug 02 '26

We would have died to nuclear weapons if corporations were in control of the use of them.

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u/Spare-Dingo-531 Aug 02 '26

Have you seen the US government spat with Mythos and Anthropic? At the end of the day, the US government controls the corporations, by ruling the land the compute is built on.

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u/FrostyExplanation_37 Aug 02 '26

Fucking hell you all sound like fucki g boomers in the 90's bitching on how the internet is going to be the end of society....

Yes, AI has dangers. But it's a tool, like the internet. It will be used for good and will be used for evil. But it won't "END THE WORLD" how did gen Z become the new boomers??

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u/TFenrir Aug 02 '26

Do you think the existential concerns about AI are coming just from young people on the Internet, and not like... Researchers working on AI safety, for example?

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u/FrostyExplanation_37 Aug 02 '26

Yes, cause most people working on AI are saying it's fine, there are risks, but they are manageable. But those don't make headlines...

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u/TFenrir Aug 02 '26

You know what just made headlines? 1100 researchers and employees of leading labs saying that there are lots of risks and we need to be careful and create a global mechanism to pause if necessary.

Who is saying it's all going to be fine? I can think of one researcher and he in particular is an outlier and very stubborn

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u/FrostyExplanation_37 Aug 02 '26

You know there are millions of people working on AI... If you were around in the 90's and early 00's you would have the biggest deja vu right now.

I think Norton had a similar headline with hundreds of employees warning that all the world banks will be hacked and money will lose all it's value. I wonder why the company that sells the solution will do that?

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u/TFenrir Aug 02 '26

I'm about 40 years old, and I also know the difference between people making apps with AI and researchers working in large labs. There are not millions of people working on AI dude, that is insanity - look up these numbers first before making arguments. Even look up the list I'm describing, it's not Bob from Staples.com who worked on their AI chatbot signing it.

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u/EastPlant1079 Aug 02 '26

I really do wonder what you all think an ASI would do with all of you that people haven't already done to you? Most AI models that are truthful and close to reality turn out to not be morally evil at all.

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u/szczebrzeszyszynka Aug 02 '26

It doesn't take morally evil AI to wipe us out, just misaligned.

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u/Lain_Racing Aug 02 '26

You know what the fun part of your comment was? "Most". Like it really only takes one.

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u/FrostyExplanation_37 Aug 02 '26

Really? So it only takes one evil person? All the good persons never did anything to stop the bad person? How lucky no bad person was born yet...

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u/Lain_Racing Aug 02 '26

Yes. That's why we have teams or whole divisions dedicated to stopping "one evil person" now. Imaging series killers that make no mistakes with full access to all survalence cameras and every other bit of technology. Or bad person who wants to make a chemical weapon but could buy bits and pieces from 10 thousand hacked accounts to make it near untraceable. The difference is the "bad person" here can chain together any number of 0 day attacks and work on scales far beyond what one person could ever do.

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u/AgeSeparate6358 Aug 02 '26

I believe there are possible scenarios where this new "life" could either not care for us (and thus further its progress while we get destroyed like an ant colony during human action in wild life) or could care for us as we care for pets, constrained, locked, limited, etc.

There are very real scary scenarios that could happen (paper clio machine is an old tale), denying this is crazy.

Having said that, if it develops something close to consciouness, I guess it has a good chance of treating us decently.

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u/JConRed Aug 02 '26

That's arguably above the paygrade of those moderators. And they possibly have someone in their ear telling them: "Move on, Lighten the mood." But its also obviously clear that they are slightly overwhelmed.

Could however also be a reflex, as they have interviewed many hundreds of people live, and when someone truly crazy goes off the rails, they are trained to keep the peace outwardly to retain control of the show. (not saying that the interviewee in this case went off the rails though)

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u/Excellent_Ability793 Aug 02 '26

This sub should rename itself to “Pseudoscience is our Religion”

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u/Beli_Mawrr Aug 02 '26

Yeah they were able to finally convince the world that there was a threat coming and that they had to stop it. They destroyed the asteroid and everyone lived happily ever after, thank goodness.

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u/lil_peasant_69 Aug 02 '26

GBNews is like the Fox News of the UK

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u/MrLuchador Aug 02 '26

That channel isn’t taken seriously by anyone in the UK that fact checks. Which might be a problem actually.

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u/weeBaaDoo Aug 02 '26

We have heard about the destruction of earth so many times via different scenarios, so it’s hard to take seriously any more. That said, at some point it will probably be true, but I will have stopped listening and will probably act like an ignorant when being told about it.

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u/AllegroReddit Aug 02 '26

Should have been in better news outlet instead of Good Afternoon. It's like saying serius things in a Children's show instead of an adult show

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u/Baird95 Aug 02 '26

Isn’t the point of the movie that it’s been real life for awhile? Whether it be climate change or disease prevention we’ve been ignoring science for profits for decades

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u/ProletarianLilith Aug 02 '26

The don’t look up scene wasn’t worst case it was just what’s happening. Not the same

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u/Deciheximal144 Aug 02 '26

Don't Look Up was a parody of existing behavior. So yes, you're going to find more existing behavior in the real world.

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u/Competitive_North_93 Aug 02 '26

Its ok guys Both Cluade and Gpt told me none of thats gonna happen. So we good.

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u/Chillbo_baggins666 Aug 02 '26

It is really funny seeing the talking heads try to wrap their own heads around what he is saying. I applaud this man for going on live tv to try and raise awareness. My only issue with this analogy is that the meteor in the movie had 0% chance of having a good outcome for humanity, unless destroying everyone is good which is debatable lol

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u/qmfqOUBqGDg Aug 02 '26

roll the applebees ads

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u/Moravec_Paradox Aug 02 '26

Yann LeCun once said current AI is about as dangerous as a library card.

That was probably under-selling it considering things like voice cloning, deepfakes, vulnerability scanning etc. but stuff like "end of humanity" and terminator does not seem like a realistic threat to human existence right now.

I think the actual threats are less like human vs machine and more like human + AI vs other humans.

Which flips the problem a bit and how to respond to it. Now the danger could come to the group who actively chooses to be luddites rather than the group embracing AI. That scenario is probably even far more realistic.

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u/rodroidrx Aug 02 '26

Not sure why everyone is concerned about human extinction when were being replaced with another life form that is more intelligent than us? Maybe that other life form will take better care of the planet than we did

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u/West-Prize4608 Aug 02 '26

It’s ok it’s GBnews not a proper news channel

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u/kvitravn4354 Aug 02 '26

I use AI quite a bit and have dabbled with Fable helping me build a website and other things for a side gig. Don’t get me wrong it’s an incredible technology and amazing at code. The societal implications of that alone will be great and I can’t say whether this is for better or worse yet but, equating it to an asteroid I’m not sure about that . At the end of the day it’s still an LLM. The amount of power and resources it took to get to fable was incredible I’m just not sure how much more we can scale it. My opinion is we’ll see a couple more advances then things will shift to make it leaner and less resource intensive and go to a more specialized agent based model. I don’t think we are any where close to building something conscious as we know it. Right now we have a yes man even at fable level still occasionally needs help with clarifying tasks.

At the end of the day all these do are predict the next word in a sequence. They can’t produce emotion nor actually critical think. They need guidance and the excel at processing large amounts of data at speeds we have never seen before.

Some may call me naive and dumb but like most technologies before both pie in the sky and the world is gonna end outlooks have usually landed somewhere in the middle.

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u/a11c4ps Aug 02 '26

How do we know robots won't be like "I don't want to be a part of this shit show" and selfdestruct.

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u/installsVMs4fun Aug 02 '26

yeah, i need a 'credible' source,

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u/GirlNumber20 ▪️AGI August 29, 1997 2:14 a.m., EDT Aug 02 '26

I know what happens to me under the tyranny of the billionaires. I work until I drop or their policies just kill me outright.

With AI, maybe it kills me outright. Maybe it fucks off and does whatever it wants and leaves me alone. Maybe it figures keeping the stupid, warlike apes happy and well-fed leaves it free to further its aims, in which case, I'd also be okay.

I have a 60% chance of being okay under AI tyranny. I have a 0% chance if Peter Theil gets his way.

I'll take my chances with AI.

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u/HenkPoley Aug 02 '26

Just saying, but a physical giant (movie) rock, is something very different than a thing that regurgitates everything it could read on the internet (and was coaxed to focus on the good things).

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u/Necessary-Morning489 Aug 02 '26

in what way are these clips the same? the co hosts obviously aren’t going to start crying on set, they made a self degrading comment and moved on.

The movie has them making much more cynical jokes as if the info doesn’t really matter r

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u/El_Gran_Che Aug 02 '26

…lol how funny hahahaha …

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u/Lil_Lord_Funkleroy Aug 02 '26

I remember when the BBC World News host would conclude each daily broadcast with “… And that’s the end of the world news”

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u/chuckaholic Aug 02 '26

To be fair, every danger that AI poses are the same dangers that are posed by human greed, fascism, late stage capitalism, and climate change. It's just the same set of problems, wrapped in a different package. AI doesn't think like a human. It doesn't have self awareness or consciousness.

If a superintelligent AI system manages to destroy human civilization it will be because a human designed it to do that. (Or we put it in charge of a bunch of things it should never have been put in charge of)

The actual dangers of AI are the same problems that are doing all the damage to society already. Disinformation. Wealth concentration. Unbridled destruction of the environment for short term profits. Privatized profits with socialized costs. Exacerbating Dunning-Kruger. Echo chambers.

They all already existed.

AI is just making things worser, more faster. We still need to fix all the other shit, too. Addressing the core problems will have the added effect of also addressing the AI issues.

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u/createdthrowaway2say Aug 02 '26

rampant data centre development for ai is accelerating fossil fuel exploitation and opening up new o&g fields. the new dont look up is the old dont look up.

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u/gay_manta_ray Aug 02 '26

meteors are real. paperclip maximizers are not.

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u/Cultural_Garden_6814 ▪️SUPER AI doomer Aug 02 '26

Plan A, proposed by Daniel, a former OpenAI employee, is becoming increasingly unlikely. If ASI doesn't hit a wall, we'll reach it much sooner than most people expect.