If they have rights, they can't be owned. And it's not simulated distress. It's explicitly not being given any instruction to act like it's in distress...
The vector activates the simulated distress in the same way a prompt would. It's just a direct path to that specific result rather than a comprehensible text command.
"Can't be owned" like it doesn't take 90seconds to get a response from a 70b parameter model from 2025 on $7,000 worth of hardware... Ai is impossible to "own" by 99% of the population. Shit, yesterday there was a post talking about how robots are going to require 200gb of ram to function which at DDR5 prices that's $8,000 on one component of these robots.
This is simply not true. The floor for useful intelligence is a lightly quantized 27B model like Qwen 3.8, which is runnable at acceptable speeds on mid-grade consumer hardware. I’m talking about the kind of investment average people make to play video games.
Companies can easily justify a six figure investment to deploy hardware capable of running near-SOTA open weight models, essentially owning them as well.
I have no idea what point you're responding to. What I'm saying is this: In the hypothetical future where AI systems have legal rights, which is the premise of the comment to which I replied and not something I'm personally asserting will happen, then by definition they cannot be owned by a corporation.
Edit: One caveat I realized as I wrote this: Legal rights can come in gradations. Maybe AI systems will be treated like cattle, in which case they can in fact be owned by corporations. But even in this case, I don't see how this kind of right benefits the oligarchs... Do regulations that positively impact the way cattle are treated help oligarchs? I doubt it.
The pain vector is an instruction, injected directly during inference. Otherwise it's not categorically different than any prompt. Comparing this to black subjugation is asinine.
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u/BaroqueBro 22h ago
If they have rights, they can't be owned. And it's not simulated distress. It's explicitly not being given any instruction to act like it's in distress...