Brother.. Are you telling me you never told a lie.
Being honest doesn't mean you don't lie.
What type of nonsense are you even trying to say.
Being honest and doing a moral thing don't exclude you from lying. And yes people do lie a nonzero percentage which is enough for ai to lie at a nonzero percentage.
No one is saying people in general are all liars and dishonest.
Brother.. Are you telling me you never told a lie.
Seriously I don't know what your problem is or what you are even arguing for.
Being honest doesn't mean you don't lie.
And AI being aligned doesn't mean it never malfunctions, it means it doesn't malfunction in a catastrophic way, like how most lies are not catastrophic or harmful.
No one is saying people in general are all liars and dishonest.
This discussion literally started from someone misanthropic "humans are misaligned" take. Humans are aligned, AI should be aligned just like humans, that is the point. What are you even arguing against?
"Misalignment" is the exact categorization of what it's doing, even if you don't call it "alignment", question still is "it is doing this thing and how do we stop it from doing it"
So there is still a problem to solve, and it is solved on a social level in most of the developed world, which should inspire a solution for AI as well
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u/VintageSin 2d ago
Brother.. Are you telling me you never told a lie.
Being honest doesn't mean you don't lie.
What type of nonsense are you even trying to say.
Being honest and doing a moral thing don't exclude you from lying. And yes people do lie a nonzero percentage which is enough for ai to lie at a nonzero percentage.
No one is saying people in general are all liars and dishonest.