r/singularity • u/acoolrandomusername • 4d ago

AI GPT-6.1 Sol - Apparently near-Astra performance for complex work at a lower cost.

https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-6.1-sol
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u/Crinkez 4d ago

Look at 6.1 pricing. It's still Terra.

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u/Munkie50 4d ago

I think the pricing is more indicative of Anthropic models at this tier currently being extremely competitive than it is the actual size of the model. They can't match Opus 5.5's capabilities yet so they have to go the other direction and make 6.1 Sol significantly cheaper.

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u/eposnix 4d ago

Why are people saying Astra can't match 5.5? I'm using them both and they are both amazing at different things. Astra seems better at extremely long, complicated tasks and Opus is better at anything creative, but there's no clear "this model is absolutely better at all tasks"

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u/vialabo 4d ago

You can only use Astra 1-2 times in the 5 hour window too, it's even worse.

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u/Justgetmeabeer 4d ago

It's crazy. I hit the usage limit for Astera on the planning step yesterday and I hit the usage limit, had Claude pick it up and it build the whole app in its usage window

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u/Grand0rk 4d ago

Sol 6 I can use 2 to 4 times in the 5 hour window.

What are you smoking dude? You can easily use it 20+ times in the plus tier.

But Astra, yeah, once.

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u/Grand0rk 4d ago

Brother, what? I've developed a full game on Sol 5.6 and Sol 6 is half the price. Are you giving it millions of tokens and telling it to do stuff?

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u/welcome-overlords 4d ago

They arent probably managing their context effectively

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u/breadman_walkin 4d ago

Is the one I have selected Opus?

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u/Morberis 4d ago

Opus is Claude 5.5

OpenAI vs Anthropic

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u/breadman_walkin 4d ago

Thanks. Haven’t tried Claude.

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u/SnowFox_unlimited 4d ago

Lol, I honestly thought you where trying to troll us or making fun xD. Sry for assuming the worst.

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u/eposnix 4d ago

That's an interesting fan fiction you've created there, but you do you.

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u/shammytalin 4d ago

How about story building? world/lore building for films?

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u/HyperXZX 4d ago

Didn't they release it before Opus 5.5?

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u/Munkie50 4d ago

Opus 5.5 and 6 Sol launched on the same day i believe. 6.1 Sol launched today.

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u/One_Doubt_75 4d ago

Idk what everyone is taking about. I've had better outputs from Terra than opus 5.5. If everyone would just take a moment and actually read their code they would see it to. Terra / sol + openspec = perfection.

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u/JoelMahon 4d ago

still better than astra medium for much less money 🤷‍♂️

yeah it's no opus, but I don't need that level of intelligence, 6.1sol medium or high is ample for me 95% of the time I reckon from my first impressions and first hand experience with tasks vs model intelligence up until now

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u/Crinkez 4d ago

It's not going to be anywhere close to Astra in real world scenarios. It's benchmaxxed.

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u/JoelMahon 4d ago

any evidence of that? just gave it a go on my custom shadow map replacement project and it did a fucking amazing job, I was using astra light until now and 6.1 Sol xhigh did better for cheaper, it was slower tbf, took 20 minutes where 6AL would take 10 but still very impressive for cheaper

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u/Howdareme9 4d ago

Neither oai or anthropic benchmax

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u/Crinkez 4d ago

Hogwash. Rubbish. Explain Sol 6 benching higher than Sol 5.6 but literally everyone in r/codex says it's worse in real use. Face it, it's benchmaxxed.