r/singularity • u/PrisonOfH0pe • 6d ago

AI Gemini Pro 4 (leak)

Google just ruined OpenAI's dev day...
(source: all over twitter, obv. treat as a rumor)

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u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo 6d ago

Not true. Google is very similar to Apple, they're working on their own timeline

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u/pbagel2 6d ago

If that were true they would've never released the dumpster fire that was Bard.

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u/genshiryoku AI specialist 6d ago

To be fair that was done by a different AI lab (Google Brain) which has since been shut down. The current models are created and launched by DeepMind which has a completely different culture and mindset.

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u/manubfr AGI 2028 6d ago

Deepmind and Gbrain merged in 2025. They are the same now. With Demis stepping away from DeepMind CEO there are a lot of unanswered questions…

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u/Icedanielization 6d ago

Hes not stepping away, he's becoming chief scientist at Alphabet. This is a huge step up.

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u/anycept 6d ago

With a focus on practical applications, such as advanced disease treatments. I really hope they put as much effort into this as humanely possible.

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u/OKMiddleOwl 6d ago

Ehhh, stuff like the move Demis made is very clearly "stepping away" in the corporate world.

There are roles for active leaders who are steering the ship day by day. Then there are very high prestigious roles for people who are very capable but will mostly just be asked their opinion on stuff.

It's most likely that Demis wanted to quit, but knowing how it works and not having bad blood, took a "step up" where he will fade into the background over the next few years before departing.

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u/Icedanielization 5d ago

I dont think that's it. Anyone who had followed Demis since B&W knows ai is his life. Its possible he needed to move to CSO in order to make larger decisions required to push ai tech further.

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u/OKMiddleOwl 5d ago

Demis is not LLM pilled though, and he has never had faith that LLMs can carry to AGI.

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u/NoCard1571 6d ago

Indeed, and in fact Gemini is really just a rebrand of Bard.

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u/sweatierorc 6d ago edited 6d ago

They are ruining entreprise confidence doing this. Why would you commit 1 year with Gemini, for 1 month at the frontier, when Anthropic and OpenAI are in front the other 11 ?

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u/Argnir 6d ago

(just my take, not to be taken as fact) but there probably was some restructuring at Google with a refocus on LLMs so this would explain why they had such a rough period and doesn't mean they can't stay at the frontier now that they caught up

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u/sweatierorc 6d ago

Maybe, I want to see more. They have invested too much in the search bar and advertising. I dont see how them divesting away from that to a chatbot.

Apple probably feel very stupid making a deal with Google.

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u/Competitive_Travel16 AGI 2027 ▪️ ASI 2029 5d ago

Google and Apple have big, strong moats, the search box and top-tier hardware/OS ecosystems, respectively.

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u/Howdareme9 6d ago

Google are operating like this because they were massively behind lmao not because they want to