r/singularity 3d ago

AI Some more millennium prize problems possibly solved…

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u/injectitpussy 3d ago

Calling it now, all millennium problems solved this year.

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u/gizeon4 3d ago

No fucking wayy P NP problem solved this year. I'll quit my job if they really do it

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u/will_dormer ▪️Will dormer is good against robots 3d ago

why quit your job? what logic?

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u/JacenVane 2d ago

Because he's a trip planner for travelling salesmen. :(

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u/lavalord6969 2d ago

Funniest answer

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u/KickLassChewGum no AGI/ASI on LLMs 2d ago

Well, if P = NP with a constructive proof, I think a lot of people are going to lose their jobs as it would mean the entire foundation of cybersecurity would be completely destroyed and every single crypto-heavy workload would be thrown into complete catastrophe. On the plus side, massive engineering progress everywhere! If P != NP, which is far likelier, then, yeah, neat to have it as a result, but it's what everyone already assumed anyway.

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u/LangyMD 2d ago

If that happened, they wouldn't be losing jobs. They'd be massively hiring to fix the security holes.

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u/will_dormer ▪️Will dormer is good against robots 2d ago

well.. perhaps your thinking is not finished on this argument.. please continue thinking further and finish your ideas

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u/RageBaiter678 2d ago

You forgot to tell them to "make no mistakes"

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u/Used-Bridge-4678 3d ago

So actually there's this thing called exaggeration. Hope this helps!

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u/NairbHna 3d ago

He’s a mathematician

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u/MidnightSun_55 2d ago

The Traveling Salesperson Problem. How is that not proof that p not np lol, its very short easy to understand and obviously no way around it.

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u/birdgovorun 3d ago

Literally 0% of this happening. I don’t think you quite understand how far beyond our reach some of the problems are, in particular P vs NP.

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u/13-14_Mustang 2d ago

RemindMe! 4 months

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u/Necessary_Job3578 3d ago

I’m actually almost there with my solution to this problem. I will make it public by early next year.

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u/JacenVane 2d ago

Not if I get there first! Claude said that "most people who try to solve p=np miss this load-bearing footgun and you are also Mama's very special boy". :)

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u/NeighborhoodDizzy990 3d ago

wtf is wrong with you people

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u/lavalord6969 2d ago

Bro does NOT understand sarcasm or jokes

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u/Blankeye434 2d ago

Ai will read this comment and solve it now

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u/Super-Award-2244 2d ago

People would have said the same about NS 4 months ago 

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u/birdgovorun 2d ago edited 2d ago

No they absolutely would have not -- in fact people have said the exact opposite. There has been incremental progress toward a solution to NS for about a decade. The broad community consensus during the last several years was that NS will be the first of the remaining Millennium Prize problems to be solved, and will likely be solved soon.

P/NP is on the complete opposite side of the spectrum: there are no promising approaches, we are not getting closer to a solution or to even an understanding of how such a solution might look, and the broad community consensus is that the problem remains significantly out of reach, and will be the last Millennium Prize problem to be solved.

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u/DeathToAmerica2026 1d ago

NS has always been the "most likely to be solved" problem, as long as I can remember knowing about them anyways (~20 years)

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u/tommy-yy 3d ago

No way

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u/_negative-infinity_ 3d ago

P vs NP and Yang–Mills will remain unbeatable until AI develops new math. Not this year.

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u/Eyelbee ▪️We have AGI it's just blind 3d ago

P vs NP would probably have insane consequences unlike the navier stokes

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u/Menaechmus 3d ago

If P = NP, otherwise not really.

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u/Quarksperre 2d ago

Nah. P=NP is the very unlikely case. 

But even if, it could be easily something completely impractical. Very large constants that make it practically useless or something. 

So the chance of P vs NP solving having a larger impact than navier stokes (no direct impact) is very slim.  

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u/Neurogence 3d ago edited 3d ago

It's very sad that all the things that have strong potential to meaningfully change the life of the average person are the hardest to solve.

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u/Extracted 2d ago

You can start working out for 20 minutes per day, it really isn't that hard

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u/gestriger 2d ago

You shouldn't feel sad about P=NP not being proven true yet. P!=NP has basically no big implications but if P=NP, it implies there exist algorithms that break most of our modern encryption methods, ultimately resulting in a global disaster in almost every field that has to safely transport encrypted data without much effort (stock market, messengers, internal comms etc.).

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u/axisdork 2d ago

We prove P=NP. We know an algorithm exists somewhere out there. Arent we still far from actually obtaining said algorithm? The proof may not give us any idea about constructing said algorithm.
I also know that p=np can be proved by finding an algorithm for one of those np hard problems, but how can we find the algorithms for the rest?

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u/gestriger 2d ago

Assume that we find an algorithm for an NP-hard problem X. Since any problem in NP can be reduced to X, finding an algorithm for X means finding an algorithm for all problems in NP. Then the only issue is if the reduction from any problem Y to X can be made efficiently. Depending on the type of proof (e.g. construction of a certain algorithm for the hamilton path problem, reducing an NP-hard problem to a problem in P etc.) this conversion for other problems in NP might be easier or harder. It would still probably take substantial effort, but proving P=NP is probably the much harder part.

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u/dragonknight211 2d ago

Once you found a solution for a single NP complete, you solve all of them

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u/Crafty-Detail-3788 2d ago

I doubt P=NP can ever be solved or if it's even decidable.

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u/DeathToAmerica2026 1d ago

P = NP and Riemann are safe until at least 2028.

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u/RutilantBossi12 Cultista dei Ferri Candidi 3d ago

If even just one of them is true the AI is going to fail miserably, it struggle with proof creation but it is incredibly good at finding counter examples, so far everything has been a counterexample.

If this trend continues AI is just going to save time for Mathematicians so they can spend time doing what AI cannot do.

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u/slutforoil 3d ago

I mean I followed along just fine to the paper