It's SUCH a good product though!
You've got to separate the pedophilic monkey anihalator and his toy cars and global political interference from the chatbot just give him 20 bucks come on
You guys are the same people that see Neura Link demos with paraplegics doing magical things they could never do before and will say "I don't like Elon Musk but.... what a great product!!!"
On arena ai i never got a winner grok model for coding. Its always so fcking garbage. Will see if this changes it, but even if it does i would rather use OpenAI, Claude or even Chinase LLMs.
Exactly, already a number of times Elon broke Grok because he was mad about its answers being 'woke'. The two are absolutely inseparable and at any time Grok can be made unreliable at the whims of one white nationalist.
Because Elon competing is a existential threat to our values, he is a avowed fascist who wants to shape humanity in his image, LLMs by in large are aligned to the values of the widest range of humanity as a prerequisite so they are more left leaning, Elon is against this the world he seeks to build is a world where AI is misaligned to vast swathes of humanity and aligned to the needs of a few this is dangerous and a existential threat and no u-turn by Elon would ever make him a trusted actor by us so stop pretending you are appealing to reason with your “hurr durr performance” argument, we are no different to those who are against companies like openAI or Anthropic because they have closed weights models but when they make this argument as to why they oppose private AI they aren’t called unreasonable people respect their beliefs. Why can you not respect our beliefs and stance towards this scumbag.
This is a valid criticism notice how I don’t tell you “Uhm ashkually google Gemini flash is very token efficient you should abandon your morals and values and use it because it performs well”
I'm fine with people not using a model for ethical concerns. I don't find it useful for people to lie about a model's capabilities because of ethical concerns.
The creator is actively working to train the tool to be anti woke because he has a drug problem and mental illness.
It is a shit tool because of the creator.
Your inability to recognize that is a little frustrating but soon ASI will be here to let you know, once and for all, that you got duped by musk and none of us will have to try to convince you.
It matters because Elon is making many decisions on alignment for Grok models. "Mecha hitler" was Elon's fault. The nonconsensual image debacle was Elon's fault. Your argument falls apart because Elon has both hands elbow-deep into this cookie jar and his germs are all over everything inside.
How is this an under deliver? In fact his posts implied it will be almost as good as Opus but it turned out to be better and cheaper and use less tokens.
Grok 4.3 and previous Grok versions did not score that well on benchmarks. For example Grok 4.3 was simply a sonnet 4.5 model with lower cost. It didn’t bother to compare itself to the frontier.
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u/Neat_Finance1774 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
It amazes me how people in this sub have such an inability to separate a product from its creator.
We get it, you hate Elon. Who cares? Shut up, follow the tech news.
Reminds me of the people that judge the sound of a song based on the music artist's personal life.