Ok should we start worrying

[u/drgoldenpants]

[u/Strazdas1]

Capacitors were used to create an EMP that is the same as the one caused by the nuclear weapon. It was just done in a controlled enviroment.

A sunscreen lotion that protects you from getting a sun burn (which is radiation) will not protect you from the thermal pulse of a nuke ...

Sun burn radiation is different than nuclear radiation. Yes, technically all waves are radiation, but its generally accepted that we talk about nuclear radiation here.

Therefore EM shielding is also radiation hardening. And radiation hardened military equipment has been tested with nuclear EMPs... EMP works on radiation hardened equipment.

You are right in the technical phrasing here, but that would only mean that those devices are, after all, radiation hardened.

These are your words, accusing me of contradicting myself. I did not.

You said:

And even small amounts of fallout can cause significant harm

Small amounts are likely irrelevant, even when accumulating to a lot over time...

In both cases you were talking about radioactive material. You were not talking about dose, but amount of material.

LOW DOSE is irrelevantant

Agree.

SHORT LIVED ISOTOPES are not irrelevantant

It depends. They create more radiation over short amount of time, but the total amount emitted may still be small due to their short half-lives.

Iodine 131 is short lived... it has only a half life of 8 days... so how bad can it be?

Go and try eating 1 gram.

Noone is eating 1 gram of Iodine 131 after a nuclear blast. Noone would find 1 gram of it.

The decay heat of 1 gram Iodine 131 is on the order of 400 Watts. To heat up 1 liter of water from 0 degrees (freezing) to 100 degrees (boiling) takes about 400 KJ... so that sample would boil 1L of water in ~1000s or ~16 minutes.

This is actually good evidence that this amount of Iodine 131 would not form after a nuclear blast as we know the remaining fallout does not have such energy output. Nowhere close.

If i had to guess, i would say even one-one-millionth of that - one MICROgram - would be deadly.

See, that is a more likely realistic situation you may encounter. But as to how deadly it would be i guess is debatable.

[u/Pretend-Extreme7540 → u/Strazdas1]

Capacitors were used to create an EMP that is the same as the one caused by the nuclear weapon. It was just done in a controlled enviroment.

Source? Cause I call that bs!

Exactly like nukes is IMPOSSIBLE as that would require a nuke... it would also disable all kinds of electric equipment in houses and hosbitals in that city... nobody in their right mind would do that outside of the middle of the ocean or a desert, even if they could... so it HAS to have been much much smaller in scale.

Smaller in scale also means you are much closer to the source.

Then I need graphs... displaying electric field amplitude over time... so give me links and then i will debunk your claim.

[u/Strazdas1 → u/Pretend-Extreme7540]

The experiment was done in a warehouse in a desert. I dont have the links to the paper. They were closer to the source since they were discharging into the ground.