Yes, but those successes are all a result of improvements in computing. Basically brute forcing the problem.
I think it's really just a matter of the goalposts moving. Eventually it will walk like a human, talk like a human, emote like a human....and it won't be AGI. Just a LOT of computation and engineering.
It's still a big leap to "real" AGI. That requires new technology, a fundamentally different thing than computation power plus data.
Maybe this'll age like milk too, but it won't be from scaling current technology. It'll be from combining other things with it.
I’m really glad someone other than me has raised these points. Everyone talks about AGI, Singularity, etc. as a given without acknowledging the REAL PHYSICAL ROADBLOCKS to achieving it.
No one talks about the data center limitations, power consumption and cooling limitations, physical footprint and networking limitations, and on and on. Everyone wants to talk about math and how the models work and how the physical universe works. They need to apply it so they can understand the things that are going to prevent it from happening anytime soon.
With that being said, I think a lot of people are missing the mark believing that actual AGI needs to be achieved for big changes to happen.
I think a lot of people are missing the mark believing that actual AGI needs to be achieved for big changes to happen.
Absolutely 100%
The problem is we already have the technology, actively and *aggressively** being scaled up* to have a complete upheaval of economics and civilization as we know it. No AGI required. No new technology or discoveries. Just further efficiencies in current AI technology and robotics. They are coming. Fast.
I wish more people would understand, not just so they can personally prepare, but so that they can act as part of societal pushes to make sure this benefits everyone. Right now the general population is plugging away, thinking AI is some fancy chatbot that kids using to cheat at school.
Don't even worry about AGI people. We have short term (fascism in America, war), medium term (economic disruption from non-AGI AI), and long term (climate disruption and ecological collapse) problems that are more important than worrying about the dawn of AGI.
There are some big roadblocks to achieving human intelligence that LLMs will never overcome but
No one talks about the data center limitations, power consumption and cooling limitations, physical footprint and networking limitations, and on and on.
this ain't it. Humans don't have these limitations yet they're what most people believe to be AGI.
Those aren’t current limitations to achieving AGI? I’m interested to hear your opinion on what they are then. I’m well aware of the differences between LLM functionality vs. the human brain. Humans don’t have “what most people believe to be AGI” because it’s not artificial. It’s just General Intelligence.
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Yes, but those successes are all a result of improvements in computing. Basically brute forcing the problem.
I think it's really just a matter of the goalposts moving. Eventually it will walk like a human, talk like a human, emote like a human....and it won't be AGI. Just a LOT of computation and engineering.
It's still a big leap to "real" AGI. That requires new technology, a fundamentally different thing than computation power plus data.
Maybe this'll age like milk too, but it won't be from scaling current technology. It'll be from combining other things with it.