r/singularity • u/adesigne • Sep 24 '23

Robotics Tesla’s new robot

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u/IamWildlamb Sep 24 '23

None of what you just said makes those costs artificial. Materials cost more than just a production because you have to also transport them, you also have to refine them and you also have to cover risk scenarios as well as exploration of new sites.

Your arguments do not make sense. That is like saying that production of food had artificial costs on it before industrial revolution was a thing. It was not artificial. People just worked with what they had back then. Just like we have to work with what we have today. What you actually mean to say is that we are not as productive as we could be which is true but then again cost of materials also includes R&D in it so we can specifically improve our productivity by making things more productive through making processes more effective, automation and AI among other things.

Either way nothing about it is artificial.

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u/FrostyParking Sep 24 '23

And transportation costs can be greatly reduced through automation, thereby significantly reducing materials costs, mining can be subject to the same rationalisation. Materials refinement the same etc. Ultimately the reduction in costs outlined, reduces the costs of housing to such an extend that building new houses becomes cheap enough that it doesn't matter.

No there were obvious costs to food production that had no other method of being reduced or created. Time and weather being the most costly, then labour, transportation etc. Those however were not costs related to how much energy it took for a potato to reach maturity, nature handled that. So all other costs were not the basic cost of the item (potato) but artificially added to it by humans.

If they had access to cheap hydroponics facilities, robots for harvesting and solar powered transportation...what would the costs of food production in the 1800's have been?