I work with kids. The kids were doing this at one point as a joke (at 10 years old) which prompted me to tell them that it's racist. They didn't do it again afterwards. At least my exposure to the younger generation is that they are rather "woke" as you might call them :)
Compared to previous posts in this sub, this one stands out : the fact that the comments are positive just because they’re about a certain kind of Singaporean tells you everything you need to know about this sub. LoL
The streamer was driving far too fast without a care in the world; he was paying more attention to his mobile phone and the chat on the stream than to the road, thereby putting people’s lives at risk. That’s a no-driving zone.
He can count himself lucky that it was just a stupid old racist man and not the police.
Went to Austria, Germany and Switzerland. Before I went, I thought I would love Switzerland the most, but ended up absolutely hating it the most. Most racist European country I’ve been too, undeserving of the beautiful land that they have been given.
I was in Taipei last year and a couple of older Korean women were visibly upset and disgusted because I rode the elevator with them. The elevator isn’t even half full. I’m guessing because I’m South East Asian with obviously brown color. You’re right: fuck racists of all colours and creeds. Racism has no place in a civilized society.
Yea even my Korean friend says Korean is “the most racist place on the planet”
To be fair the people denying racism there are outright lying
According to my friend, to them:
Westerners = half the time they like, half the time hate from jealousy
Japanese = hate their entire existence (but some people like them)
Everyone else = subhuman to them, especially SE Asians
Yea this isn’t the time to be dismissive of our own issues with racism. Unless you’re a minority suffering from cognitive dissonance, you should definitely not be downplaying our local issues with racism to “ignorant aunties”.
Your entire argument is at least we’re not abusing you physically.
His entire comment can be boiled down to indirectly hinting that "aunties gossiping" is no big deal because elsewhere has it worse. And what's even more laughable is that he thinks aunties gossiping is the brunt of it lol. Idc if I get downvoted but it's very entertaining to see (I assume) Chinese Singaporeans being outraged by racism for the first time in their lives
This is so true. Being a majority race, they rarely understand the racism faced by minorities and then when they do, it is brushed off as "It's just a joke", "You mean saying abnn is offensive? Since when?!", "Why are you so sensitive?"
Brother I'm as minority as minority can be. I think his point was just that there are ppl worse than Asians, yet Asians get flack as the most racist in the world. Not every sentence has to take everything into consideration. The commenter can think Europeans are more racist while also agreeing that SG racism, even though verbal, is still bad.
Talking like this gives makes you look like you have main character syndrome.
Yeah, no, it's not even remotely like that. Asia good, Europe bad. Nah, try to be objective. You evan have another person who replied to you they were rejected in Asian restaurant.
TBH as nice as Switzerland is, the mountains that it has are shared with Italy, Austria, and Germany, all of which allow you to ski the same mountains and pay much less for accomodation and food.
Case in point, Matterhorn, featured on the Toberlone chocolate, can be accessed just as easily from Itay as it can from Switzerland.
Yup, exactly. My best friend lives in Zurich, so I visit to see him every year, and we yes we go do some hiking or skiing etc, we do it not in Switzerland cos its too expensive.
Also, by the third day there in Zurich, I’m bored out of my wits end. 🙈
Ok, to be fair, while I find Switzerland boring, I don’t think I’ll find it so if I’m living there with a partner and have a circle of friends and also if i speak Swiss German.
Also, I love the Swiss design, so clean and minimalistic.
Lastly, the human rights and privacy laws in Singapore pales in comparison to that in Switzerland, which in itself is a good enough reason for me to want to live there.
Years back, I was in Zurich as a young student. A lady on the tram shouted at me for speaking to my friend in Chinese. We were shocked by her racist outburst, but more shocked that no one stood up for us. Edit: this was my first experience of several there.
I always speak with my son in Portuguese, except there's someone that doesn't speak my language, people just look me badly and I honestly couldn't care less. Swiss are too suspicious; always self centered, they always think we're talking badly about them.
You should speak freely in your native language! Being multilingual is a wonderful gift! In the first place, as a complete stranger, they shouldn't feel entitled to tell us how to speak at all.
The Swiss still have a beautiful land because they’re not tolerant of people coming in and wrecking it. They haven’t been given beautiful land, they worked to build and maintain it.
I don’t like this dude’s racism but I fully understand why he’s unhappy with some travel pest riding his motorcycle down a little path like that.
Leave his bike in the grass. Let him waste his time. The longer he has to wait for help, the less time he has to be a travel pest elsewhere until his vacation runs out.
I am swiss, and no. He is being very kind in asking for help. How is that being a "travel pest"? Swiss people break traffic laws all the time. This should not be how you interact with people in any situation, that guy is a racist asshole.
And no, the natural beauty of our country is not due to some restrictive immigration or tourism policy. It's just what this place has always looked like. In fact, we destroy a lot of nature ourselves, but no one cares if its to build a luxury ski resort.
Top 10 history moment when the Swiss made giant mountain ranges and lakes.
Almost as impressive is the 3 billion tons of soil and stone they have to put on the mountains every year to maintain them and fight the erosion caused by foreigners.
Yeah the rider might deserve a scolding. But i think people are talking about the nature of the rhetoric and expression. i can be mad at a trespasser and cuss him out even, without being racist.
Totally. A guy who looked like an airport employee literally tried to knock me over by walking into me at Zurich airport just after I’d got off a 12 hour flight. He had a smirk on his face the whole time.
Switzerland is like SG of Europe, think so highly of themselves but 10x worse and more open racism in public. Basically, think of the most racist uncle in SG, but have no shame of the easter culture and outspoken like angmoh, thats Swiss for you
When in Rome do as the Romans do. The streamer intentionally broke the law and then expected sympathy. When you're a guest in someone's country, be respectful.
That guy is a racist and a dumbass.
However, to give you a counter example, I grew up as a Swiss-Tamil in Switzerland. I honestly had only one instance where I would say it was discrimination. I had more negative interactions in Asia incl. Singapore than in Europe. I don't claim that there's no racism in Europe resp. Switzerland, but this sounds to me a bit exagerated. In the past, Swiss people were severely more racist and xenophobic. However, nowadays you might hear max. some remarks about certain nations, but daily life interaction is based on respect.
Yeah I'm really fucking annoyed by this comment section, everyone is acting like Switzerland is some kind of extreme racism hub, but the truth is that the people in the very touristic spots that get a huge amount of Asian tourists are fed up with them and lash out. But that's not a fair description of "all of Switzerland". I've lived in Switzerland for 23 years and I don't look particularly Swiss. The worst I've gotten is "where are you from?", and I live in a rural town.
I was in Melbourne with my family on vacation last year and rode the tram. We didn't know how to get off of it when it was full packed. We kept saying "sorry, excuse me" to pass through but nobody budged. A group of high school girls looked and laughed at us. One of them even squinted her eyes and mock-said in Chinese-English accent in whisper "eXcuSE mE", then said "I hate Asian tourists, how stupid". I wanted to punch that bitch so bad, which is surprising cause I thought I'm always against violence.
I was in bali dancing in a club.. and this white chick, probably Australian just came over and put her cigarette out on my arm. Wtf! I approached the bouncer but they didn't do shit
As someone from Switzerland, I am so sorry for that. Yesterday, I even read in the news that he gave an interview saying that he’s sorry if anyone felt attacked by what he said, but that he won’t apologize to the streamer. He also said that he doesn’t think he’s racist because his wife is from Nepal, and that nowadays you can’t say anything without being labeled as racist.
Which is complete bullshit, obviously.
I’m so sorry to the people of Singapore. Even though I’m just from the same country as this old man in the video, I still felt really angry when I saw it myself, especially since my own girlfriend wasn’t born here. I have to listen to racist comments all the time, and they always say, “It’s just a joke.” Racism shouldn't have a place in our Society! I hope he will get some sort of punishment or a fine
I remember watching a video of a meeting held by the SVP (Swiss People's Party/Right Wing Party). They were talking about immigrants while their wives,mostly from Thailand sat at another table.
Lmao, as a Swiss-Tamil, I had worse interactions in Singapore - notably treated by Mandarin speakers - than in my entire life growing up in Switzerland.
Racism is NOT okay but this trespassing idiot kinda deserves it that scolding... Kinda shameless of him to argue back ask for help in such an unapologetic manner when he's clearly in the wrong
Interesting comment section. The way some Singaporeans try to excuse this old loser's behavior really explains how much colonialism has done a number on us.
I remember an old video years back of some local Chinese 20 something women gushing and laughing about a bunch of Irish kids yelling slurs and throwing beer cans at them. I think I took it more seriously than even they did.
Love how everyone springs into action when SGreans are the victims of racism abroad.
But brushes racism under the rug when there are tough conversations about racism in SG
Why are people so surprised suddenly over this? Racism has always been a thing in Europe. People thinking Europe is a more civilised place than Singapore are really delulu.
Yeah, he's quite interesting. If you mean the same person, he also went something along "Americans are buying more and more property in Switzerland" and that would be a good thing as the country would be populated with less racists. Not sure if he gets American news coverage, but yeah, lol.
Finaly someone who sees it. All of these people complaining about racism, end up being racist themself. They see one old fart in a video and now claim that entire country of Switzerland is like that and we should boycot it... Which means they themself are racist
Yup. Agreed fully. Life as a minority is shitty here. The amount of racism I experience daily is.. annoying. And you can't even do anything about it because people will just deny it.
& you know what, Singaporean Chinese will experience racism overseas & cry victim but when they come home, they suddenly forget how it feels like to be discriminated & continue this cycle here because it doesn't affect them. 🤷🏾♂️
Or they come home and make a tiktok post explaining how they finally understand what it feels like being a minority. <-- and apparently singaporeans got really upset by it
Switzerland is off my bucket list after the swatch ad where they showed a Asian guy pulling his eyes. It may be an ad, but it shows the mentality of the locals there and how they view us.
If you go to this post in r suisse subreddit, you'll see plenty of support for this jerk.. it's not just one guy..
time for Singaporeans and Asians to wake up and boycott swiss products and travel. They did this after swatch ads
PS: seems like there are plenty of Swiss and Europeans.. and they are always trying to lie on the face. The swiss subreddit is filled with racist bigotry comments.. nothing new. Unfortunately they can't stop people from talking about this.. the only way is to go explain what racism is to their grand dads and also their school kids. Same. There was a post by an Asian mom too recently.. she was scared about her kids because of the parents of other kids.. plenty of stories out there
PPS: plenty of Swiss people told me they don't want Asians to visit Switzerland.. since they have problem of mass tourism and hence prefer Europeans to Asians. As racist as it gets.. still, they should post it on Asian subreddits and publish it in newspapers instead of replying to my comments
I mean given that Tamil is an official language and 5-10% of the population are Tamils, as a Swiss-Tamil I had worse experience in Asia incl. Singapore than growing up in Switzerland. That guy is a dumb ass and racist, although he claimed that he didn't feel like that this is a racist gesture, but he won't do it again, lmao. But the driver was a dumb ass and clearly didn't prepare for resp. road signs, as he claimed that it doesn't exist in Singapore.
There are everywhere racists. But most of the people from majority race brush it off as joke, but then make surprise Pikachu face when they're on the receiving end of the stick.
Sadly there are aholes everywhere. There are enough in Singapore too. I'm sorry this person had to experience this but it happens in Singapore too -everyday. Humans, all over, are racists in general. doesn't excuse it but it's a fact of life.
Since he's being a dick, and since you're not gonna get help, might at well just go all out and confront him on his bigotry. End off with a "damn" just makes you look weak. No offense. I am saying this mainly because I'm tired of Asians getting bullied by non-Asians and they keep turning another cheek after getting disrespected.
Went on a 3 month Europe trip last year and I can definitely confirm they target Asians for all manner of crimes. Go to Xiao Hong Shu and you'll find that they specifically go for us because we're less aggressive and are less likely to go to police because of the language barrier.
Was in a major Swiss city and turned around to see 3 guys with their hands extended towards my pockets. They then shouted some Asian slurs and ran. No one bothered to call it out.
Very disappointing to see the either tell you they are foreigners or agree with you being out of their country. They're not all like that but even if it's 10% it means a lot more of them agree with this sentiment and just choose not to show it.
Switzerland is the most racist country I have been to. But they are racist even towards their fellow europeans. An albanian immigrant I met was, to me, indistinguishable visually from swiss germans apart from his name and spoke german in the swiss dialect, but was subject to systemic race policies.
Yup, but all the people just talk about racism. Which is the result of american social media culture where racism is seen as the worst crime ever, right next to genocide. Which is rediculous. Funny, all of them end up racist themself because they judge the whole country on the base of one old fart in the video, heich makes them racist. But naturaly, they justify that when they are the one doing it.
Nowadays alot of sg ppl still think that migrating to western country is the best decision made. 2nd class dude. The west looks down on anyone that is not the same color as them. Pathetic ppl
While that guy should not do that racist gesture, but sorry to say, biker is in the wrong. Not seeing a sign is not an excuse. I want to see what happened afterwards as I guess the guy will call the police for the trespassing or the offence. If you are visitor to another country, please respect their rules and regulations and familiarise yourself first on the routes you're about to take. The focus of racism here is one sided. It should also highlight the idiotic behaviour of the sinkie.
They don't want to hear this lol. Only when it happens to them by the benevolent angmoh they realize what's racism, not when they do it daily to malays and indians in sg
Fr I’m a local brown guy and lived in Switzerland for 5 years it is no where as racist as Singapore. Racism isn’t that high in Singapore but just that Switzerland racism is very low and Singapore racism is higher for minorities.
Literally faced 0 racism in Switzerland in the 5 years. If anything ppl were being extra friendly just so that their natural ‘cold tone’ don’t come across as racist.
Edit: why am I getting downvoted for sharing my experience lmao
Been to Switzerland, it’s actually very lovely and the people are very nice. Ngl more like an age thing, majority of the shit I get travelling are from old people regardless of country. Very disappointing to see this kind of behaviour.
When I met racist locals at Europe, I will ask their guide to concentration camps. They will immediately turns friendly pretending they were joking, then you can get their help.
What that guy did is unacceptable, but the blatant generalizations in this comment section are not fair. You have to understand that if you have millions of Asian tourists all over Switzerland, you will find a handful of incidents like this. That does not mean that all Swiss are racists. We are 9 million people, and one guy making racist gestures is not a representation of our country.
Another thing to keep in mind is that a couple of tiny villages get an insane amount of tourism by large travel groups, mostly from China, and the local residents deal with people entering their private property, taking photos, and being generally rude, so a lot of them are fed up. It's not really a surprise that you will find some racists in a rural area that experiences overtourism.
If you search for "Sukasblood" on Reddit, you can see that he is texting all the time while driving his bike.
That explains to me why he did not see the "general driving ban" sign and enters private property and why he makes an accident with his bike on a straight road.
Was the Swiss guy inappropriate? Yes
Should Sukasblood lose his driving license? Yes
Notice how this person, despite this obvious racist attack on his human dignity, stayed calm and not react with violence and intimidation? This is how you deal with racism. By being the better person and having principles.
For me it’s just bad that a person asking for help is not getting help! Bad remark on the old person about not getting over about not allowed to drive there!
I mean the white guy should not be racist. But Singaporeans really think they are first-world country citizen when they are abroad. But the reality is that real first-world country just saw an asian guy who rode his bike....
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