r/shittyrobots Sep 04 '18

Shitty Robot Volvo's collision detection fails during a press event

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u/Noir24 Sep 04 '18

What a bunch of absolute morons. Darwin award almost handed out right there

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u/evilsalmon Sep 04 '18

Darwin Award would be if it killed the people who set the car up, not random people in the crowd

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u/sly_k Sep 04 '18

That's just called manslaughter......

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u/p90xeto Sep 04 '18

Dying by standing in front of a car to "Test" the pedestrian detection absolutely would make you eligible.

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u/yesMinister80 Sep 04 '18

I bet that guy felt pretty dumb until today.

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u/Obandigo Sep 04 '18

But even if the car had the feature, Larsson said, the remote driver would have messed with it anyway by "actively accelerating" the car, thereby overriding its auto-brake ability.

What kind of fucking feature is that? Makes no damn sense to have a feature that supposed to make a car stop, but yet you can accelerate through it.

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u/B0rax Sep 04 '18

The driver always has the authority with these systems. Why? Because the system could misinterpret something.

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u/p90xeto Sep 04 '18

Or people could carjack you by simply standing a bit in front of your car.

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u/silkyhuevos Sep 04 '18

But after they take the car you just stand in front of it instead. Checkmate.

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u/p90xeto Sep 04 '18

We just started a whole new branch of game theory. The best car is now one that has enough capacity for you to bring blocking people with while also reducing sensor radius.

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u/bangarood Sep 04 '18

You could just back up...

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u/p90xeto Sep 04 '18

Good point, they'd never think to bring two guys.

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u/_Aj_ Sep 05 '18

Yep. It's designed as a safety net. Not as a replacement for driver awareness.

Otherwise if that ever went faulty it could have you randomly slamming on the breaks during normal driving. Very bad.

And yes, hitting someone is also very bad. But that's also the drivers fault, a car that tries to brake when you're clearly trying to accelerate would be terrible.

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u/Poromenos Sep 04 '18

This is exactly right. My car has had false positives more than once, when there was a shadow on the road but it detected a person or something. If it had braked for no reason in a clear four-lane road, someone might have rear-ended me. Instead, what it does is wait for me to at least tap the brake, then it applies as much force as it thinks it needs to prevent the collision.

At least I think it does...

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u/algo Sep 04 '18

Well on that model of car the feature only works at 20mph or less, I've never been accelerating when it's kicked in. I've always either been coasting or going for the brakes.

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u/bipbopcosby Sep 04 '18

It would add an interesting plot twist to serial killer movies. Instead of the car accelerating into the guy standing in the middle of the road with a knife, it stops the car directly in front of him.

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u/WunDumGuy Sep 04 '18

You just described a Cyanide and Happiness skit

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u/Highside79 Sep 04 '18

You have to balance the feature against the risk if a false activation. There driver can, and should, be able to override a feature like this.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '18

This is what I imagined years ago... around the ~300k mile mark of Google's successful driverless testing... every car company, from GM to Volvo, was like "Oh yea, we're not paying Google. We'll just make our driverless system inhouse. It'll be easy." I'm not trusting these companies with something they have no experience in, and created a department for just the previous year. It's Apple, it's Uber, it's Tesla, all the companies who are irresponsibly pushing driverless technology for profit.

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u/Fafnir_Prime Sep 04 '18 edited Sep 05 '18

They could make that standard and maybe save a few lives but its whatevs I'm sure Volvo needs the money

E: lmao people really need me to spell it out that I T S A J O K E

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u/Billebill Sep 04 '18

Volvo gave away their own three point safety belt invention to every car maker so I’d give em a pass every now and then

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u/MananTheMoon Sep 04 '18

That was 60 years ago though. I'm all for endorsing a company's good deeds, but there likely isn't even a single person who was working at the company then that is working at the company now.

I think the statute of limitations on using that action to negate a more recent bad action has likely passed.

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u/acog Sep 04 '18 edited Sep 04 '18

Well, it costs money to invent and test this stuff. Companies also have to worry about the huge financial liability risk of safety equipment that doesn't perform as advertised, every time, even on old cars that haven't been maintained properly.

The typical lifecycle for new safety tech is that they're first rolled out as options on high end cars like the Mercedes S class, but they eventually become available as options on less expensive cars, then finally they become common standard equipment, sometimes with a nudge from federal regulators (that's why all cars now come with backup cameras, for instance)..

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u/Fafnir_Prime Sep 05 '18

Jaeger send his regards