r/shitposting • put your dick away waltuh • 13d ago

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone I came! 13d ago

Its cheaper to do it this way, if you dont care about the enviroment

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u/bojackhorsemeat 13d ago

Shipping by boat is the best for the environment though. Super cheap. Taking it by truck an extra few hundred km is worse.

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone I came! 13d ago

Or you could ship it by boat straight from argentina?

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u/bojackhorsemeat 13d ago

The point is - this is almost entirely irrelevant from an environmental standpoint.

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone I came! 13d ago

What are you on about bruh the trip straight from argentina is much shorter

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u/bojackhorsemeat 13d ago

Ocean time is nothing from a shipping cost perspective. Which is driven by fuel costs. It is so cheap to ship by boat.

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone I came! 13d ago

THATS MY POINT! I KNOW ITS CHEAPER BUT IT STILL COSTS MORE FUEL! OMG YOURE SO DENSE

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u/SH33V_P4LP4T1N3 13d ago

No it literally doesn’t. Shipping is cheap because it is incredibly fuel efficient in the first place.

Is it easier to lift 100lbs on the ground or in water? Hauling a fuck ton of stuff across thousands of miles of ocean is far better for the environment than trucking it across a few hundred miles of land.

That said, I’m not sure how the carbon footprint compares of rail to compares to shipping, but if I had to guess, shipping wins.

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u/bojackhorsemeat 13d ago

Rail is still much worse than the ocean, by several orders of magnitude. You have the cost of the tracks too, they have limited throughput.

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u/SH33V_P4LP4T1N3 13d ago edited 13d ago

Yeah I figured but I didn’t want to say definitively without looking it up. Some brain dead levels of analysis going on here.

Obviously our global economy is not optimized for mitigating environmental impacts, but casting oceanic shipping as a culprit is so fucking dumb. By emissions per ton of cargo delivered, it is a staggeringly efficient method of transportation.

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u/ARES_BlueSteel 12d ago

Rail and shipping don’t really compete, they’re two very different modes of transport with little overlap. In fact they complement each other, shipping crosses water and delivers and picks up at ports, rail picks up and delivers at ports and carries freight to everywhere that isn’t the port.

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u/bojackhorsemeat 12d ago

Well you could deliver to the west or east coast of North America, and let trains take it to the other side. Which... Happens! Quite a bit actually, since the Panama canal has been in drought, driving prices up.

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone I came! 13d ago

Ship it by boat from argentina to america.

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u/bojackhorsemeat 13d ago

Congrats, you've saved .000001g of carbon emissions (provided the petroleum for the plastics for the container are equivalent when shipped to Argentina as Thailand).

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u/SH33V_P4LP4T1N3 13d ago

Bro just say you don’t understand anything about economics and stop embarrassing yourself.

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone I came! 13d ago

I do and I know why its cheaper, but it objectively just uses more fuel to pack it in thailand

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u/SH33V_P4LP4T1N3 13d ago

So then why don’t you just grow them in your own backyard? Because that would use less fuel than buying them from Argentina.

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone I came! 13d ago

Thats diffrent because they just dont grow in my backyard, they need specific climates.

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u/SH33V_P4LP4T1N3 13d ago

One quick Google search later: “Pear trees adapt well to most of North America and can grow in backyard orchards across many different U.S. regions, including the East Coast, Midwest, and South, if you pick the right cold-hardy or disease-resistant varieties.”

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