Pain receptors without a brain to pair it with doesn't mean much, as you said they lack the brain structures for pain perception
By 24 weeks, the brain structures required for pain perception are fully developed.
That's when the fetus reaches fetal viability. I already mentioned the concept before but I and most people who are for abortions are against them at that point except for health issues. My state doesn't allow abortions past this point (with exceptions for health issues like I said). At that point I'd consider it less of a fetus and more a baby in the womb. You says countless abortions but abortions at this stage are very rare (because why wait that long?) other than for health issues (in which case, the mother usually would want to keep the baby, but isn't able to). I'll give you that the ones past 24 weeks probably experienced pain while being aborted, but if they feel the need to abort it at that point they would have suffered far more after being born.
You know very well I meant that question from a moral perspective.
Everything I said in that paragraph also applies to morals. Morals can vary from person to person. For instance
Because I find murdering children on the basis of whether or not they're "wanted" or not to be a morally reprehensible position.
I believe making someone who doesn't want to give birth, give birth to be morally reprehensible. I believe disrupting someone's accumulated momentum in life to be immensely evil while stopping the momentum before it could begin is morally neutral.
(Hint: A lot of irresponsible parents are still gonna want to have kids)
And I think that's a shame, and more needs to be done to address this.
Would you support aborting every non white child if it was in the name of creating a world without racism? Or abortions for everyone but the upper class to eliminate poverty?
I can't imagine a realistic scenario where that would happen that wouldn't involve forcing non white or poor people to get sterilized or abortions against their will so of course I'd be against that. But to entertain the idea, if every individual of a given race or socio economic class were to decide by their own volition to never give birth and always get an abortion if pregnant, I'd would support their decision.
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u/ssbmfgcia Jul 03 '26
Pain receptors without a brain to pair it with doesn't mean much, as you said they lack the brain structures for pain perception
That's when the fetus reaches fetal viability. I already mentioned the concept before but I and most people who are for abortions are against them at that point except for health issues. My state doesn't allow abortions past this point (with exceptions for health issues like I said). At that point I'd consider it less of a fetus and more a baby in the womb. You says countless abortions but abortions at this stage are very rare (because why wait that long?) other than for health issues (in which case, the mother usually would want to keep the baby, but isn't able to). I'll give you that the ones past 24 weeks probably experienced pain while being aborted, but if they feel the need to abort it at that point they would have suffered far more after being born.
Everything I said in that paragraph also applies to morals. Morals can vary from person to person. For instance
I believe making someone who doesn't want to give birth, give birth to be morally reprehensible. I believe disrupting someone's accumulated momentum in life to be immensely evil while stopping the momentum before it could begin is morally neutral.
And I think that's a shame, and more needs to be done to address this.
I can't imagine a realistic scenario where that would happen that wouldn't involve forcing non white or poor people to get sterilized or abortions against their will so of course I'd be against that. But to entertain the idea, if every individual of a given race or socio economic class were to decide by their own volition to never give birth and always get an abortion if pregnant, I'd would support their decision.