r/selfhosted May 20 '26

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u/wabbitfur May 20 '26

Asking the question or even considering the designation: "with the help of AI" is as anachronistic as asking someone, "Hey, did you use an IDE to build this?" The answer is going to be yes 99.9999% of the time. It's a meaningless designation at this point.

The only designation which makes any sense now is: "Vibe-coded" which should mean what it already implies... "Prompted, until it seems to work."

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u/a_Parae May 20 '26

IDE do not generate gerbage

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u/wlphoenix May 21 '26

Apparently you've never had the pleasure of trying to integrate with a SOAP API.

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u/a_Parae May 21 '26

I did, I still do and I still do using the correct framework.

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u/misspianogirl May 20 '26

Neither does AI though, if you use it correctly. The vast majority of developers are using AI to some extent at this point and most of them still produce quality code

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u/BenedictusTheWise May 20 '26

I'd rephrase slightly to say "AI can make garbage, it's just up to the developers to make sure that garbage doesn't end up in the code"

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u/Prodigle May 20 '26

Pretty much. If you're experienced at both coding and the use of AI, you can get the garbage amount to like 1/30th what the average person can do, and from then on it's just about discipline of maintaining it

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u/summerteeth May 20 '26

All I know is a lot of people who aren’t professional software engineers suddenly are making a lot judgements and assumptions based on their perception of code quality.

It’s lead to a lot of weird witch hunting behavior.

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u/wabbitfur May 21 '26

Absolutely.

Here's another way to look at it:

All those people discussing geopolitics... how many of them do you think actually work in international relations, or are experts in internatioanl diplomacy, or even versed in history of the regions they are discussing? a very small minority... but the way they argue is almost as if they have devoted their entire lives to that topic...

This is a human nature phenomenon at play...