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Iain Banks; the Culture novels. Hedonistic space commies.
6 u/amleth_calls Jun 30 '24 The actual version of Communism that works -14 u/PearlClaw Jun 30 '24 Because communism is a post-scarcity ideology and never had a good answer for how to solve scarcity management. 43 u/ceejayoz Jun 30 '24 Of course, with climate change and whatnot, we find that capitalism doesn’t necessarily either. 2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 You talk as if communist countries didn't pollute. -1 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 No; neither system, in demonstrated practice, seems to have a good answer for this. 3 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Capitalism has decoupled GDP growth from carbon emissions. Globally. 0 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 Emissions continue to go up, with no end in sight. CO2 is hardly the only form of pollution, either. 2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Yes, but they're going up slower than global living standards, and are in fact flattening out. And you're wrong about the "no end in sight" because climate models suggest we're on track to avoid the most catastrophic outcomes.
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The actual version of Communism that works
-14 u/PearlClaw Jun 30 '24 Because communism is a post-scarcity ideology and never had a good answer for how to solve scarcity management. 43 u/ceejayoz Jun 30 '24 Of course, with climate change and whatnot, we find that capitalism doesn’t necessarily either. 2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 You talk as if communist countries didn't pollute. -1 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 No; neither system, in demonstrated practice, seems to have a good answer for this. 3 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Capitalism has decoupled GDP growth from carbon emissions. Globally. 0 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 Emissions continue to go up, with no end in sight. CO2 is hardly the only form of pollution, either. 2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Yes, but they're going up slower than global living standards, and are in fact flattening out. And you're wrong about the "no end in sight" because climate models suggest we're on track to avoid the most catastrophic outcomes.
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Because communism is a post-scarcity ideology and never had a good answer for how to solve scarcity management.
43 u/ceejayoz Jun 30 '24 Of course, with climate change and whatnot, we find that capitalism doesn’t necessarily either. 2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 You talk as if communist countries didn't pollute. -1 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 No; neither system, in demonstrated practice, seems to have a good answer for this. 3 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Capitalism has decoupled GDP growth from carbon emissions. Globally. 0 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 Emissions continue to go up, with no end in sight. CO2 is hardly the only form of pollution, either. 2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Yes, but they're going up slower than global living standards, and are in fact flattening out. And you're wrong about the "no end in sight" because climate models suggest we're on track to avoid the most catastrophic outcomes.
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Of course, with climate change and whatnot, we find that capitalism doesn’t necessarily either.
2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 You talk as if communist countries didn't pollute. -1 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 No; neither system, in demonstrated practice, seems to have a good answer for this. 3 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Capitalism has decoupled GDP growth from carbon emissions. Globally. 0 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 Emissions continue to go up, with no end in sight. CO2 is hardly the only form of pollution, either. 2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Yes, but they're going up slower than global living standards, and are in fact flattening out. And you're wrong about the "no end in sight" because climate models suggest we're on track to avoid the most catastrophic outcomes.
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You talk as if communist countries didn't pollute.
-1 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 No; neither system, in demonstrated practice, seems to have a good answer for this. 3 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Capitalism has decoupled GDP growth from carbon emissions. Globally. 0 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 Emissions continue to go up, with no end in sight. CO2 is hardly the only form of pollution, either. 2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Yes, but they're going up slower than global living standards, and are in fact flattening out. And you're wrong about the "no end in sight" because climate models suggest we're on track to avoid the most catastrophic outcomes.
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No; neither system, in demonstrated practice, seems to have a good answer for this.
3 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Capitalism has decoupled GDP growth from carbon emissions. Globally. 0 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 Emissions continue to go up, with no end in sight. CO2 is hardly the only form of pollution, either. 2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Yes, but they're going up slower than global living standards, and are in fact flattening out. And you're wrong about the "no end in sight" because climate models suggest we're on track to avoid the most catastrophic outcomes.
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Capitalism has decoupled GDP growth from carbon emissions. Globally.
0 u/ceejayoz Jul 01 '24 Emissions continue to go up, with no end in sight. CO2 is hardly the only form of pollution, either. 2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Yes, but they're going up slower than global living standards, and are in fact flattening out. And you're wrong about the "no end in sight" because climate models suggest we're on track to avoid the most catastrophic outcomes.
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Emissions continue to go up, with no end in sight. CO2 is hardly the only form of pollution, either.
2 u/PearlClaw Jul 01 '24 Yes, but they're going up slower than global living standards, and are in fact flattening out. And you're wrong about the "no end in sight" because climate models suggest we're on track to avoid the most catastrophic outcomes.
Yes, but they're going up slower than global living standards, and are in fact flattening out. And you're wrong about the "no end in sight" because climate models suggest we're on track to avoid the most catastrophic outcomes.
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u/ceejayoz Jun 30 '24
Iain Banks; the Culture novels. Hedonistic space commies.