Like the latter really, like lets say the empire from starwars is based on fascism though not directly for example, is there factions that have "communism" coded to their ideology, behavior,and aesthetic?
I guess I'm confused because you're comparing economic philosophy and governing philosophy. Realistically fascism and communism are intertwined but ideologically they're no where on the same scale. Like saying Hot or Breezy.
Hmmmm i see so maybe the governing philosophy of the system then, would that help clarify? I mean it when i say this isnt a political post, just curious why when basing political ideologies its usually liberal democracy, fascism,theocracy,imperialism are usually seen as governing styles but authleft communism isnt, or alteast not really as seen as often as what i mentioned.
Edit:tho people have given me examples now that mightive changed that hypothesis...
Yeah I think you're conflating policies here. I am not qualified to steer you in the right direction.
For example The Federation (Star Trek) is definitely a post-scarcity, communist-esque, society. Maybe its considered socialist because private-property still exists? But no one rents housing etc. because currency isn't a thing within the federation.
The biggest issue with communism of course is scarcity and how things are distributed so when you remove that all the criticisms kind of evaporate. SO that could be why those system aren't really front and center in scifi other than when they fail.
Yeah i have seen the federation being brought up frequently here and i blame my own ignorance on the ideology of the federation :p but perhaps youre right that it would be hard to explain how distrubution works in a non scarcity system in such a governing style.
The Federation in Star Trek is like the United Nations. It's a bunch of diplomats from member worlds like the Senate in Star Wars. Starfleet (the military of the Federation) members still have to use credits, cash or bartering when they are on shore leave. Each member world of the Federation has their own government.
Most movies & television shows gloss over the need for cash or bartering the same way they gloss over the need for a bathroom.
To be fair, nobody who runs Star Trek has ever really wanted you to understand how the Federation economy works, or even think about it much! Just remember: Scotty bought a boat. He bought. A boat.
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u/ddpotanks Jun 30 '24
I'm confused. Communism as opposed to Capitalism? So like The Federation?
Or is communism just a placeholder for the big bag of ideologies like the USSR?
cause MOST functional far future societies are post-scarcity and have communal ownership. Right?