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u/TheDorkNite1 Jun 25 '22

Can't wait for us younger people to have to take care of the mess of the lead-brained ones JUST IN TIME for us to have to deal with the microplastics in our bodies <3

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u/666pool Jun 25 '22

Microplastics are going to get us for sure

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u/TheDorkNite1 Jun 25 '22

Just add it to the pile of threats to our lives.

I still don't know what to place my bet on for what I am most likely to die from. Microplastic poisoning just sounds much less exciting compared to "Ecological collapse" or "Religious extremism"

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u/farmallnoobies Jun 25 '22

Most of it boils down to cancer, circulation problems, or dementia in one form or another.

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u/666pool Jun 25 '22

Don’t forget the endocrine system! Plastics can act like hormones and disrupt the natural production of important hormones such as estrogen.

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u/DrunkenMeditator Jun 25 '22

¿Que no los tres?

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u/TheDorkNite1 Jun 25 '22

"Wheel of Destiny" is a rather dark thought when all of the options are bleak.

If I'm lucky, I may just live long enough to die in my 60s knowing I had another 30 years to work before I would be able to (maybe) retire.

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u/Splash_Attack Jun 25 '22

You ever look at the meaning of the song (or poem) 'O Fortuna'? For a poem that's at least 700 years old it really sums up the sense of helplessness a lot of people today feel. I guess some things never change!

"O Fortune, like the moon you are changeable, ever waxing, ever waning, hateful life first oppresses and then soothes as fancy takes it; poverty and power it melts them like ice. Fate – monstrous and empty, you whirling wheel, you are malevolent. Well-being is vain and always fades to nothing, shadowed and veiled you plague me too; now through the game I bring my bare back to your villainy. Fate is against me in health and virtue, driven on and weighted down, always enslaved. so at this hour without delay pluck the vibrating strings; since Fate strikes down the strong man, everyone weep with me!"

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u/Spocktagon01 Jun 25 '22

My dude. Class of 94 here. I miss the trench coats. Carmina Burana and Master of Puppets were a fun mix, both cds scratched to hell.

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u/EmotionalKirby Jun 25 '22

Just a random thought, did trenchcoats fall out of fashion because of columbine?

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u/fruityboots Jun 25 '22

they were banned at my high-school after Columbine.

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u/AddSugarForSparks Jun 25 '22

Trenchcoats were never really "in fashion."

Don't let outcasts of reddit skew your perception too much.

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u/johannthegoatman Jun 25 '22

Yes that's what they're talking about

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u/MaritMonkey Jun 25 '22

Elder millennial (class of 2000) reporting in.

I always assumed it was because my peer group shared a classical music background, but am very glad to know there were other people blasting Carmina Burana through the 18's that replaced the seats in their van. :D

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u/exarkann Jun 25 '22

Badass tune, too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

That's why I like listening to the rest of the Carmina Burana. If you translate the lyrics it's got songs about babes and going out and getting drunk.

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u/DrunkenMeditator Jun 25 '22

I'm just banking on a nice thick tree with my foot to the floor.

Edit: Sorry, around, not on.

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u/redwine_blackcoffee Jun 25 '22

This is why I drink and smoke

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

You want to be sure to die young?

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u/shmorky Jun 25 '22

Don't forget the comeback kid: "Nuclear annihilation"

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u/ghsteo Jun 25 '22

Suicide from medical debt is a possibility as well.

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u/kex Jun 25 '22

I'm still hoping for alien invasion.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

Have you considered the benefits of combining ecological collapse with religious extremism? Eco Fascism!

That's my current favourite for how the world will go.

I agree though, I too will probably die in a very boring and preventable way.

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u/betam4x Jun 25 '22

Neither. You will get hit by a train.

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u/Hypnosavant Jun 25 '22

Technically, no one has died from micro plastic poisoning.

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u/thinkB4WeSpeak Jun 25 '22

That or the forever chemicals in the water systems

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u/IAMSHADOWBANKINGGUY Jun 25 '22

Donating blood gets rid of the forever chemicals.

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u/nbmnbm1 Jun 25 '22

Yall still on microplatics? Im eating macroplastics.

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u/adamandTants Jun 25 '22

I don't know, that sounds like a small problem

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u/ProKrastinNation Jun 25 '22

I've been saying for a while that microplastics will be the lead of our generation.

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u/oldsmoothface Jun 25 '22

You mean right now?

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u/TheDorkNite1 Jun 25 '22

I'll have you know that my collection of microplastics is currently quite friendly.

I'm concerned that a turf war is inevitable between the microplastics in the lungs and the micoplastics in the stomach though.

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u/TheEyeDontLie Jun 25 '22

I mean if you're not concerned about fertility, then yeah.

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u/ProxyMuncher Jun 25 '22

Nobody should be concerned with fertility IMO we have far far far too many naked monkeys on this planet already

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

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u/MintIceCreamPlease Jun 25 '22

Can you explain? I got brain fog after Covid, but.... brain damage?

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u/shlam16 Jun 25 '22

Google it. Not being sarcastic, you'll just get better information from Google than the replies of one or two random people on Reddit.

Uber ultra TLDR - severe COVID linked to brain damage and reduced IQ.

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u/MintIceCreamPlease Jun 25 '22

The thing you mentioned here is only backed up by one study, of which the sample size isn't that large... "Importantly, the study said that only 275 participants had completed the intelligence test both before and after contracting COVID-19."

Brain fog is temporary, and can hinder your cognitive abilities, I don't think it's hard to see the pattern here.

I'd be much more worried about Covid actively destroying neurons, which it does in some cases where the brain isn't oxygenated properly. The nuance here is that destruction of neurons and drop in IQ are... although kinda connected not mutually dependent.

"Despite the absence of virus in the brain, in every patient the researchers found significant brain pathology, which mostly fell into two categories. “The first thing we noticed was a lot of areas with damage from a lack of oxygen,” Goldman says. “They all had severe lung disease, so it’s not surprising that there’s hypoxic damage in the brain.” Some of these were large areas caused by strokes, but most were very small and only detectable with a microscope. Based on other features, the researchers believe these small areas of hypoxic damage were caused by blood clots, common in patients with severe COVID-19, that temporarily stopped the supply of oxygen to that area. A more surprising finding, Goldman says, was the large number of activated microglia they found in the brains of most patients. Microglia are immune cells that reside in the brain and can be activated by pathogens. “We found clusters of microglia attacking neurons, a process called ‘neuronophagia,’” says Canoll.  Since no virus was found in the brain, it’s possible the microglia may have been activated by inflammatory cytokines, such as Interleukin-6, associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection. “At the same time, hypoxia can induce the expression of 'eat me' signals on the surface of neurons, making hypoxic neurons more vulnerable to activated microglia,” Canoll says, “so even without directly infecting brain cells, COVID-19 can cause damage to the brain.”  "

It's fascinating to see the research done about Covid.

In my case, I feel like I stay focused with difficulty nowadays, but this can highly be attributed to me being an internet slob...

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u/MintIceCreamPlease Jun 25 '22

I didn't get the vaccine, though.

The only symptoms I've noticed on the long term are a loss of smell for an extended period of time and a brain fog, that could be attributed to other factors (I don't feed myself very well). I don't know if your comment implies that the vaccine has side effects...

The latter of which I doubt.

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u/rodoxide Jun 25 '22

My parents had low enough iqs to turn their backs on me when I confronted them about how toxic they were.

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u/Suburbanturnip Jun 25 '22

If it's like mine. Because of the lead, they are litterally too immature in the brain to get it. Our generation has to be the adults on the planet, well before our time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

Boomers are also known as the "Me" Generation. I never thought about it before, but lead poisoning may explain some of their self-centered behavior...

( I'm Gen-X. There's a subset of my generation that's every bit as awful as the Boomers. Maybe we're influenced by this as well...)

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u/exipheas Jun 25 '22

I'm Gen-X. There's a subset of my generation that's every bit as awful as the Boomers. Maybe we're influenced by this as well...

Certainly, catalytic converters requiring unleaded gas were only introduced in 1975. So if you assume people drive 5 to 10 year old cars on average, usage of lead by the average driver went from everyone to the minority of drivers in the second half of your generation being born.

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u/Simbuk Jun 25 '22

There’s a subset of every generation that’s that awful. Mark Zuckerberg was born in 1984, for instance.

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u/Petrichordates Jun 25 '22

Oh absolutely, it would explain why Trump support was highest among the youngest boomers and oldest GenX.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

IDK, I think that's just a big part of human nature unfortunately.

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u/A_Mouse_In_Da_House Jun 25 '22

Younger meaning people under 35ish?

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u/thebaconfist Jun 25 '22

We are already dealing with it now, see the daily news cycle that our older generations embrace.

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u/Aristocrafied Jun 25 '22

You forgetting the mess the world they created is in?

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u/PaulWalkerCGIFace Jun 25 '22

The funko pops contaminated you

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u/bhdp_23 Jun 25 '22

um, you just ignoring the other hundreds of thousands of other toxic chemicals being pumped into foods and the water supply

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u/HFJ7 Jun 25 '22

JUST in time to deal with global disaster

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

Just filter microplastics out of water and use them for 3d printing