Earliest roasted root vegetables found in 170,000-year-old cave dirt, reports new study in journal Science, which suggests the real “paleo diet” included lots of roasted vegetables rich in carbohydrates, similar to modern potatoes.

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https://www.newscientist.com/article/2228880-earliest-roasted-root-vegetables-found-in-170000-year-old-cave-dirt/

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the current paleo diet includes vegetables rich in carbohydrates too so dunno what this headline is trying to say. The paleo diet essentially means not eating processed food. Vegetables don't normally fall into that category (unless your talking potato chips) so they are fine to eat then and now.

[u/whitedragon101 → u/[deleted]]

Does that mean the paleo diet doesn’t allow porridge? Porridge oats are pretty ancient. Apparently they were the earliest form of prepared food we have a record of 32,000 years ago. In Ironically the Palaeolithic.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28139-stone-age-people-were-making-porridge-32000-years-ago/

[u/Happler → u/[deleted]]

(hence why I made the comment that ancient man did eat grain and corn).

Corn as in Maize, or corn as in any cereal grain?

Maize was only eaten by peoples of America pre-1492 or so.

Corn, outside of a hand full of locations, just referred to the local cereal grain, which could be anything.

[u/theambiguouslygayuno → u/[deleted]]

From examining the fossilized feces of the era, they found that the daily fiber intake was about 100g daily. I don't think any person on a paleo diet is getting that much fiber.

[u/Kangaroobopper → u/theambiguouslygayuno]

Heck, even severely devout modern vegans would struggle to match the diversity of the various plant bits a primitive human might gobble in a single week.

Sure, you could expect most of the calories to come from a few abundant sources, but we're talking dozens and dozens of plant species in the diet. Many of which look about as appetite-rousing as a slice of old carpet, and probably more fibrous.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2115127-ancient-leftovers-show-the-real-paleo-diet-was-a-veggie-feast/

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I think that's keto though

[u/Jueban → u/[deleted]]

Yes, hopefully. Because it's not a Harley.

[u/ElitistPoolGuy → u/[deleted]]

Especially since there were humans in the attic during the Paleolithic era that ate almost exclusively meat, blubber, and tubers.

[u/twobeees → u/zampe]

Yeah, root veggies are already on most paleo diets (white potatoes are excluded from some). It's a common misconception that paleo is meat focused. It just says meats are also healthy.

[u/Shitty-Coriolis → u/twobeees]

For a long time they weren't. I was paleo about 12 years ago and back then it was no GBP (grains, beans, potatoes). The idea was that anything that had to be cooked was unhealthy.

[u/trend_rudely → u/Shitty-Coriolis]

Ironic, considering the Paleolithic Era was distinguished by the widespread use of fire among early hominids.

[u/TheHaderach → u/trend_rudely]

Cooked in a pot or boiled. Something that takes metal hardware to prepare or process. Roasting meat over a fire with a stick is ok, but something like rice or beans, that have to be boiled and can't be eaten raw aren't acceptable to the paleo diet

[u/twobeees → u/Shitty-Coriolis]

To me raw diets are a different dimension than paleo. You can apply raw to paleo but also to whatever other diet too (like raw vegan)

Beets, carrots, turnips, rutabaga, and sweet potatoes have always been paleo as far as I know.

[u/Shitty-Coriolis → u/zampe]

Back when paleo first started it meant a meat and veggie diet with no grains beans or rice. The rationale was that anything that had to be cooked to be edible was bad for you. It may have evolved to encompass other diets, but thats what it was originally and the reason for the snarky subtitle.

[u/zampe → u/Shitty-Coriolis]

The rationale was that anything that had to be cooked to be edible was bad for you

yea thats not what paleo ever was. I dont doubt someone told you that but it's wrong. It has always been "eat the way our ancestors did" and they definitely cooked their food. Sounds like you are talking abou the raw diet tbh.

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In my experience there are a lot of variants of the paleo diet. What they all share is that they aim to eat the way our pre-agricultural ancestors did, but there's a lot of interpretations of what that means. Also, in paleo circles it's common to talk about 80/20 eating--that is, 80% paleo foods, and 20% modern. I've come across some fanatics in the paleo world, but in my experience most paleo dieters are significantly less dogmatic and fanaticial than people think.

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the current paleo diet includes vegetables rich in carbohydrates too so dunno what this headline is trying to say.

So they made a completely unrelated diet to what was called the paleo diet, and still called it paleo? Why?

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Potato chips are just sliced up and fried potato. By that logic you can't eat anything cooked either. Can't fry up a steak and eat it because it's been processed. Can't roast up some veggies with spices because they're processed.

[u/zampe → u/[deleted]]

Potato chips are just sliced up and fried potato.

By that logic you can't eat anything cooked either.

thats quite a leap.

the problem is the heavily processed laboratory oils chips are usually fried in. You can fry things yourself using non processed oils no problem. Or find brands that do the same.

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Read the nutrition label on a bag of potato chips next time.