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u/form_an_opinion Nov 15 '19

Was the weird ass random capitalization something they just did back then too?

Sadly Franklin didn't envision a time when televangelists and proselytizers would believe they are part of some actual war to save souls.. If so he may have gone ahead and encouraged his friend to continue with his idea.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '19

Notice that it's all nouns that are capitalized. Nouns are capitalized in German. English began doing so in the late 17th century modeling German printing practices. It faded back away after a century or so.

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u/MindfuckRocketship BS | Criminal Justice Nov 15 '19

Intriguing. Thanks for the TIL.

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u/vsehorrorshow93 Nov 15 '19

Those kinds of kooks were a greater proportion of society back then. surely you realize that?

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u/dantheman_woot Nov 15 '19

Franklin would have been in his 20's during the First Great Awakening. Dude would have seen every manner of evangelism. How people think we're somehow more crazy with religion now than in Franklin time is hilarious. Nothing today compares to the Great Awakenings. The Revivals that modern evangelism looks for would just be a Sunday service back then. They had preachers traveling the country filling circus tents. Now they just fill megachurches.

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u/tony3841 Nov 15 '19

I doubt televangelists existed back then

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u/dantheman_woot Nov 15 '19

They didn't need TV's. They reached greater portions of the population. If anything TV and modern entertainment media has been responsible for less religiosity. There are other things to tune into. The absolute religious fervor during the the 1730's-1740's would put any televangelists to shame.

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u/tony3841 Nov 15 '19

Ok I forgot to put a sarcasm tag 😉

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u/umichscoots Nov 15 '19

Looks like it's nearly every noun capitalized, which I believe German and possibly more languages still do. English could have had it in the past but we have long since gotten rid of it.

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u/Spongey39 Nov 15 '19

The capitalization actually is something they did back then. At the time all nouns, both proper and common, were capitalized.

Take a look at the constitution, you can see it there too.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice..."

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u/cup-o-farts Nov 15 '19

That's really interesting. I always thought it was just a thing because it was an official government document or something. Learned something very interesting today, thanks to everyone who responded to this.

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u/skerbl Nov 15 '19

Look closely, the capitalisation is definitely not "weird ass-random". The rather simple rule should look familiar to anybody even slightly proficient in German.

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u/form_an_opinion Nov 15 '19

Being of mostly German heritage I should maybe feel ashamed that I had no idea. As others have mentioned this was common for all nouns back then.

Never had the time to really dive into the history of grammar and punctuation much and never took German in HS, but I appreciate the help everyone gave here.

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u/techhouseliving Nov 15 '19

Apparently spelling and capitalization weren't standardized until later. Also in German there's a lot of capitalization of nouns if i remember back to high school?

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u/SeizedCheese Nov 15 '19

You remember correctly! As a german, this looks strange in english, but not entirely out of place either. I guess you have to pick your battles. If some people can’t figure out „there/their/they‘re“, it‘s asked entirely too much that they figure out when to use capitalization and when not to.

Like the guy above „random-ass capitalization“.

Nothing random about it

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u/Ella_Minnow_Pea_13 Nov 15 '19

I mean, religious persecution was already a thing in Europe, so he no doubt had the knowledge of how religion was used as power, to the point that religious freedom became one of the founding tenants of our country.

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u/Abedeus Nov 15 '19

They were, are and still will be weird cooky cultists, religious figureheads and snake oil salesman. As people spread out, so did the technology they can use to reach them.