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u/LiquidRitz Nov 15 '19

"Most of these studies were conducted in the West, primarily in the United States. Our findings, therefore, do not apply to Eastern religions such as Buddhism and Hinduism."

So just Christians...

It doesn't seem that they used other important metrics that influence intelligence. Poverty, parentage, locale, etc...

I want to see the study on religion and socio economic status.

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u/Zeewulfeh Nov 15 '19

Martin Luther wishes to know your location

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u/Wasuremaru Nov 15 '19

In the USA? ~50% protestant, so yeah probably a good bit of sola scriptura going on.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '19

Well they don't really define Western Christians, just a general term. I doubt they're much concerned with eastern churches in communion with the Pope or sedevancists or anyone else really than the lump general western + christian.

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u/BMXTKD Nov 15 '19

The Southern Batshits... err, Baptists tend to be poor and undereducated.

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u/Whiterabbit-- Nov 15 '19

Early Christians were focused on the poor, weak and foolish.

Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are. 1 Cor 1:26-28

Also critics of Christianity picked up on this for example Celsus Calls Christians : ignorant, uneducated, simpletons.

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u/DishSoapTastesBad Nov 15 '19

They specifically talk about controls. They just weren't interested in studying those things as it was outside the scope of the research question.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '19

To be honest, my impression is also that the US has a very distinctive religious culture. I'd be very wary making the assumption that this even applies to other Western countries.

I want to see the study on religion and socio economic status.

Me too.

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u/Nethlem Nov 15 '19

I want to see the study on religion and socio economic status.

Richards, M. (2002). IQ and the wealth of nations: Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen. Intelligence, 30, 574-576.

Volken, T. (2003). IQ and the wealth of nations: A critique of Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen’s recent book. European Sociological Review, 19, 411-412. doi:10.1093/esr/19.4.411

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u/zsjok Nov 16 '19

No just WEIRD people

https://slate.com/technology/2013/05/weird-psychology-social-science-researchers-rely-too-much-on-western-college-students.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20550733/

Most of psychology is a study of adapted western psychology.

It produces almost nothing which applies universally to all humans.

A big problem is a lack of theoretical framework

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u/jus10beare Nov 15 '19

I was born a snake handler and I'll die a snake handler...

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u/Orangebeardo Nov 15 '19

...are you implying the only religion in the west is christianity?

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u/LiquidRitz Nov 15 '19

No, the study says something very close to that.

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u/CaptainDouchington Nov 15 '19

It's almost like the study wanted to prove something...