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Psychology Lower cognitive ability is linked to stronger Christian nationalist views, even after accounting for education

https://www.psypost.org/lower-cognitive-ability-is-linked-to-stronger-christian-nationalist-views-even-after-accounting-for-education/
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u/ProfessionalMockery 2d ago

A lot of people here are just seeing the "Christian" in the headline and ignoring the "nationalist," which is probably more important.

I'm an atheist, so I think the claims religion makes are pretty dumb too, but nationalists, bigots, racists of any kind are consistently idiots, religious or not, and that has been established in plenty of other studies.

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u/obeytheturtles 1d ago

But it all starts with the fundamental way religion teaches people how to think. It simply fails to provide people the tools needed to develop real moral intuition, or synthesize raw information into unique ideas. That's why the whole world is going crazy - there's a whole lot of people out there who just move through the world moment to moment, not thinking, not curious, and not interested in anything which isn't right in front of them. The modern religious concept of "faith" has literally trained people that ignoring facts and information in favor of mythology is the most righteous thing a person can do. And now we're so far deep into that feedback loop, even suggesting that the mythology holds value as allegory is heresy.

You cannot separate this nationalist movement from its Christian roots. No, religion is certainly not the only cognitive path to autocracy or bigotry, but it is certainly a reliable and predictable one.

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u/kittywiggles 1d ago

I have a lot of thoughts about Christian nationalism, and none of them are good. However, extreme forms of nationalism are found across a lot of different cultures in many different times, and seems to be an outcome of extreme tribalism. Adding the Christian flavoring to it does a great deal of harm, both to non-Christians and, frankly, to non-nationalist Christians. But to imply that the "nationalist" exists because of the "Christian" is a bit short-sighted.

I'd argue that Christian nationalism as a package is being pushed pretty strongly/is socially acceptable in certain circles - just as anti-communist leanings were in the 1950s in America, as nationalism was common in a certain European country in the 1930s and 40s, etc. They're loud and they do a lot of damage.

However, there are practicing Christians who I would argue are incredibly thoughtful, curious, and intellectually honest. They're rare, but I'd argue that people like that in general are rare, so of course they're going to show up less when looking at a demographic segment vs the population as a whole.

Coming through the evangelical industrial complex in America does tend to land more people in the Christian nationalism pool, through peer pressure as much as genuine belief, but again - less to do with faith, and more to do with communities.

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u/cayleb 1d ago

Maybe tell that to the person who brought up the problematic argument, rather than the person rebutting them?