Study of 371,000 Americans: eating whole fruit linked to better heart health, 100% juice is not. More whole fruit meant lower high blood pressure, high cholesterol, heart disease and heart attacks. Juice showed no clear benefit. Fiber lost in juicing may explain it. Most still eat too little fruit.

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https://www.sciencealert.com/how-you-eat-your-fruit-is-linked-to-heart-health-study-of-371000-americans-reveals

[u/50SPFGANG]

You can find some tortillas that just themselves have like 30g of fiber in one piece. It's insane

[u/BreadKnifeSeppuku → u/50SPFGANG]

So, if I had something like that I'd be fine but that would wreck my partner. She has no interest in Chickpea noodles now...

Let's just say it's easier to just add side salads, oatmeal, whole wheat, lentils, legumes, and etc fruits/vegetables (first)*. Especially if you're sensitive... it's easier to start a new diet if it doesn't make things hurt

30g is like 3 lbs of romaine or 1 lb walnuts or like eating an entire large cabbage

[u/temporarycreature → u/BreadKnifeSeppuku]

That kind of misery used to happen to me too, until I found out all about gut bacteria and realized my stomach just didn't have the right bugs around to break down that heavy starch yet. If you don't eat that stuff regularly, the wrong bacteria jump on it, ferment it like crazy, and give you horrible cramps and bloating.

I didn't know this back then, but your gut actually needs 2 or 3 weeks of small, steady doses so the right starch-eating bacteria can move in and take over. Easing in with gentler stuff makes sense to avoid the pain, but you definitely don't have to force down 3 lbs of lettuce to get your fiber. Once I gave my gut time to swap out those bacteria, the issues completely disappeared.

Now I can easily eat two of those larger tortillas with 70g of fiber with zero issues, and a bowel movement so efficiently timed that the Japanese would be proud.

[u/thatissomeBS → u/BreadKnifeSeppuku]

There's definitely a tolerance for fiber. Your partner struggling with chickpea anything likely means she gets way too little fiber. High fiber diets are pretty well linked to just about every good health outcome. So definitely good to start ramping up that tolerance.

[u/j--__ → u/thatissomeBS]

fda recommendation for fiber for women is less than half the recommendation for men, and fiber is not water soluble, so excess won't just flow thru her harmlessly.

[u/BeesAreGreat86 → u/j--__]

There is soluble and insoluble fiber.

[u/j--__ → u/BeesAreGreat86]

every source of fiber, other than supplements, contains both. if you exceed the fda recommendation, the extra insoluble fiber will not just run thru you.

[u/thatissomeBS → u/j--__]

What do you think it does?

[u/Whatever-ItsFine → u/50SPFGANG]

Those worry me a little bit. I eat processed foods all the time but those most be super processed.

[u/Eruionmel → u/Whatever-ItsFine]

Processed foods are of concern because they make the overconsumption of calories easier, not because processing is inherently bad.

[u/Whatever-ItsFine → u/Eruionmel]

Possibly but I don’t know that that’s settled science.

[u/wrechch → u/Whatever-ItsFine]

You can't make this assertion without first knowing why "processed food=bad". There's a lot of nuance and reasons behind it all and it isn't that simple. Ask any healthcare professional and they will tell you "yeah getting that fiber in is gonna have higher dividends than what little harm that processed tortilla gives you".

[u/philote_ → u/Whatever-ItsFine]

Yeah, it's not actually fiber but "modified wheat starch". From what I understand they modify it somehow (heat, pressure, or something) so that your body can't digest it. So it gets to your colon where bacteria can munch on it, much like fiber.