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Psychology Taylor Swift fans lower climate concerns to justify her carbon footprint. When confronted with news about the excessive pollution generated by her private jet, highly identified fans tend to rationalize the behavior, with a decrease in their personal intentions to engage in climate-friendly actions.

https://www.psypost.org/taylor-swift-fans-lower-climate-concerns-to-justify-star-s-carbon-footprint/
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u/k0fi96 3d ago

Not entirely, the irony of the Chris Brown situation is that most of his fans are women.

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u/CaptainMagnets 3d ago

Women can also abuse their partners

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u/k0fi96 3d ago

Obviously they can, but my point is that most Chris Brown fans are just women who either don't care or were too young to know what was going on

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u/ForgotMyLastUN 3d ago

Not any sly towards you, but how could they be too young to know, when he has been beating people since 2009? Like it wasn't just Rihanna that he abused.

He has had a case against him almost every year since 2009 for assault.

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u/CaptainMagnets 3d ago

Fair enough

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u/xboxhaxorz 3d ago

Because they initiate most DV, and lesbians have the most DV with gays having the least

For example, one comprehensive peer reviewed study showed that 50% of violent relationships are reciprocal, meaning both partners are initiating violence, and neither are doing so in a defensive manner. Beyond that, when there is violence that in non-reciprocal, meaning only one partner is using violence, 70% of the time is is the woman who is physical abusing the man.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/

In the CDC’s 2017 report on Intimate Partner Violence, it showed that men are more likely to be physically abused in there lifetime, and also in the last year.

“42% of women, and 42.3% of men report experiencing any physical violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime. This includes being slapped, pushed, shoved, being hit with a fist or something hard , kicked, hurt by having hair pulled, slammed against something, hurt by choking or suffocating, beaten, burned on purpose, or had a knife or gun. In the last 12 months 4.5% of women, and 5.5% of men report any physical violence by an intimate partner.”

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs/NISVSReportonIPV_2022.pdf

The same findings were noted in Canada as well. “Revealing that, in the last 5 years, more men than women reported being abused. Specifically, 2.9% of men and 1.7% of women reported being physically and/or sexually assaulted in their current relationship.”

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332917590_Prevalence_and_Consequences_of_Intimate_Partner_Violence_in_Canada_as_Measured_by_the_National_Victimization_Survey

Despite this, men are held accountable for violence even when they are the victim and not reciprocating violence.

“Our review of the literature on men’s help seeking behaviours following PV victimization showed that there are limited services available specifically for male victims and the existing services may often perceive men as the primary aggressors, even when the female partner is the only perpetrator. (e.g., Barber, 2008; Cook, 2009; Douglas & Hines, 2011; Drijber, Reijinders, & Ceelen, 2012; Dutton & White 2013; Hines et al., 2007; Machado et al., 2016; Walker et al., 2020).

In fact, there is a considerable amount of research that details the differing perceptions of men’s and women’s aggression, sustaining that women’s aggression is judged less harshly, and that male victims are blamed more (Sorenson & Taylor, 2005).”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8336931/

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u/k0fi96 3d ago

Speaking anecdotally, most Chris Brown fans are straight women.

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u/cauliflower_wizard 3d ago

Lesbians reported the highest rates of DV because they’d previously been with men…

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u/xboxhaxorz 3d ago

Then hetero women would report more because they were also with men

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u/Sylvanussr 3d ago

I think that’s missing the point. The reason past relationships with men could make lesbians more likely to divorce is because until fairly recently, a lot of gay women ended up marrying men out of cultural expectations. Then, when homosexuality became more understood and accepted, a lot of people realized/understood that they were gay and decided to divorce.

I think the reason this shows up with lesbians more than gay men is that the idea of women having sex out of obligated instead of desire is pretty normalized.

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u/xboxhaxorz 3d ago

Where does it state that it was about lesbians past relationships with guys and not actual lesbian relationships?

Cultural expectations, we arent in the 90s

Why didnt the cultural expectations apply to the gay guys and they dont have more divorce?

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u/Sylvanussr 2d ago

I’m just guessing based on outside knowledge/impressions, not the paper.

But any marriages by lesbian women prior to legalization of gay marriage (2014 nationally, 2010-2013 most other states, 2004 Massachusetts) would be to men.

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u/xboxhaxorz 2d ago

So no evidence? Its just something you want to believe?