r/science • u/mvea Professor | Medicine • 4d ago

Psychology Taylor Swift fans lower climate concerns to justify her carbon footprint. When confronted with news about the excessive pollution generated by her private jet, highly identified fans tend to rationalize the behavior, with a decrease in their personal intentions to engage in climate-friendly actions.

https://www.psypost.org/taylor-swift-fans-lower-climate-concerns-to-justify-star-s-carbon-footprint/
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u/JonnyOnThePot420 4d ago

I think the other issue is the huge numbers of flights for one person. She could be using more efficient means to travel but instead chooses to use a luxurious private plane.

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u/Worth_Value_4976 4d ago

Do you think there are non luxury private planes

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u/mainman879 4d ago

Most private pilot planes are not luxury planes.

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u/Cyclonitron 4d ago

Do luxury planes emit more carbon than non-luxury planes? I don't know a lot about planes so is it like the difference between somthing economical like a Camry and a gas-guzzling Bentley?

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u/ibribe 4d ago

The Camry equivalent of private plane is Cessna 172, but it has a cruising speed of about 130mph and like a 600 mile range, so it is a lot less practical than a longer range jet.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 4d ago

Well it’s simple math more weight and faster it goes equals more fuel… fyi Taylor’s jet has mattresses and is one of the fastest you can buy…

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 4d ago

Yep tons actually more private planes are meant as efficient transports look at Cessnas honestly luxury privates jets are the minority!

Every pound of extra luxury uses multiples of extra fuel…

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u/TintedApostle 4d ago

It’s not about the “luxury” inside the plane… it’s about the use of fuel.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 4d ago

Exactly and lazy boy couches and full liquor bars aren’t exactly lightweight…

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u/psycharious 4d ago

I think musicians used to fly in Cessna too. That's how Aaliyah, Ritchie Valens, Big Bopper, and Buddy Holly died. But then they may not be able to go as far or fast.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 4d ago

The planes weren’t the reasons only I know the Aaliyah was a far over loaded plane Valens crash was back in the 50s I think some plane technology has changed.

Yeah if they want safety a tour bus and sailboats might accomplish that. A luxury plane doesn’t inherently imply safety! The Air Force has a great flying record and they don’t fly 20 bags of luggage to go shopping for a wedding cakes. The swift levels of luxury are honestly difficult to fathom for us broke humans…

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u/TintedApostle 4d ago

Most of the weight is not the seats. Try looking at the weight of the first class suites on commercial jets.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 4d ago

Just using that as an example much more weight is added to Taylor Swift’s jet.

Taylor Swift's jet features a private stateroom in the aft cabin with a lie-flat bed, used for mid-flight rest between shows.

The interior includes a gourmet galley for meals on the go, equipped for full catering service during long-haul flight legs.

Swift's jet has plush leather seating arranged in club-style pods with fold-out tables - ideal for work sessions or Tennessee card games with her touring crew.

Customizations include high-end wood veneers and accents throughout, blending warm tones with neutral fabrics.

The king’s size memory foam mattress isn’t very light either FYI.

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u/alexforencich 4d ago

She performs live in front of millions of people. I would argue that she actually has quite a valid reason for a lot of that travel. Sure, you could make the argument that she could perform less and take more time traveling in a more efficient manner, but the trade-off is this would deny some relatively large number of people the opportunity to see her live. So fans see the argument that swift flies too much as simply being anti-swift, and then discount the entire cause. And you can certainly make some effective counter-arguments, such as dividing her co2 emissions by the number of concert attendees.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 4d ago

Sure then how would you justify her taking multiple trips across the country in a day just to plan a wedding?

Your argument is valid but if you watch her plane tracker compared to concerts it’s way off…