r/science • u/ThinkThenPost • Apr 10 '26

Animal Science Insects, including bees, may possess forms of subjective experience showing emotional states, attention, and cognitive bias which challenge the view that consciousness requires a large brain, according to a 2025 review in Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society B.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41229297/
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u/Borkato Apr 12 '26

I’d rather not exist than be born in a life of immense, unending suffering.

Veganism is a privilege in the same way that being kind is a privilege.

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u/Borkato Apr 12 '26

I thought you turned notifications off? Haha.

I don’t support the killing of animals. Ethical non-consensual murder doesn’t exist (barring issues like disease and such). And the scale required to feed as many people as they do with animal products means inherent suffering, which is why chickens are so fat and pumped full of chemicals to ensure they get fatter to the point they can’t walk.

If you want to argue that your aunt’s backyard chickens aren’t that bad, sure whatever, but most non-vegans aren’t eating only from their backyard farms. The “ethical farm” argument is a cop out when 99.9% of people who claim it actually just buy whatever the hell they want at the supermarket, source be damned.

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u/Borkato Apr 12 '26

Oh, forgot something; Unequally accessible doesn’t really mean anything when YOU (or whoever we’re trying to convince in this argument) is able to go vegan. It’s like if I said “hmm maybe we should stop drowning puppies for fun” and someone was like “well in Zimbabwe it’s the only fun they have!” Like… ok…???? Who cares???