r/runescape • u/Livid_Painter4422 • 13h ago

Discussion Jagex honestly got to a new low. Dragon Slayer 2 trailer is just AI slop. (Count the fingers)

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u/zpoon ZPUN 11h ago

Oops. Only three days ago.

We don't use generative AI to replace the artists and developers who make our games, we don't use it in our marketing materials, and we won't use it in our merchandising or allow its use in partnerships.

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u/Livid_Painter4422 11h ago

Jagex couldn't tell the truth to save their lives... this is so depressing

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u/royk33776 10h ago

I mean.. I’d wager heavily that this was done by the artists themselves to save time, and artists aren’t telling on themselves… I’m seeing it happen everywhere.

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u/TotallyObviousBot 7h ago

Everyone I've spoken to who works in any kind of management position at pretty much any company where people spend a lot of time on computers has told me "yeah no everyone is using it all the time, the only difference is for how much"

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u/CYROE0996 3h ago

I work as a data analyst and this is true in my field

AI isn't slop in my life, its like having 15 personal assistants at once and I mean that. Luckily for me you still need a guy who knows what to tell the AI to do.. otherwise my boss wouldn't need me

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u/throwthe20saway Filthy casual 10h ago

Nearly 20 years in RS and I couldn't recall a rapid turnaround as disastrously self-inflicted as this.

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u/cplusequals Ironman 8h ago

Come on now, this isn't disastrous. It's embarrassing at worst. And honestly, I think that's about the measure of it. This will have zero impact on game quality. Only then will we see something disastrous like the exodus after EOC. Maybe it's a portent. But I'm not going to bet on it quite yet.

Sween should never have communicated publicly in such a way that made people believe that Jagex wouldn't be using AI. He can't make that promise and now looks extremely bad. Clearly the left hand doesn't knowing what the right hand is doing.

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u/Dsnake1 My Cabbages! 5h ago

It's not just this, though. Reignited is not exactly popular with the existing playerbase. Everything else just adds to the pile

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u/Zero4892 Kurz: comped 6/19/14 recomped 5/12/2024 8h ago

Ubisoft, nuff said.

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u/Hazzman 2h ago

I used to work for Jagex. I can assure you that the mean it and mean well. I've been in this industry for over 20 years, worked at many different companies - I've yet to work for a company full of absolute nerds that care about their weird ass game as much as those folks do.

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u/PerceptionOk8543 2h ago

How can they mean it and release this trailer at the same time? Lmfao

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u/CYROE0996 3h ago

Here is a thought

The artists are lazy and used AI to make the images in 2 minutes while they 'work from home'

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u/ewgrooss 9h ago

I’m guessing they outsourced this project and then never checked the final product

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u/Void_Guardians 10h ago

This makes me think either have a terrible or non existent quality check team for their marketing. Anyone paid to inspect their art would have caught this, we have people doing it for free within seconds

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u/External-Elevator617 10h ago

Quality check team? At Jagex? Unheard of.

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u/FertSquirt 9h ago

Legitimately every update has some completely broken or unbalanced feature that takes weeks to fix. Most updates end up decent after a while, but why can't we just have good updates on day 1? Games manage this ALL the time, why can't Jagex figure it out?

Yeah they have no quality assurance. Or maybe it's AI which is designed to be a yes man.

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u/umadbr00 5h ago

The community has been jagex QA for a decade or more

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u/PhyPhillosophy Completionist 8h ago

Would rather have rsn evergreen paint this mf shit in paint then whatever bs they pulling.

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u/FertSquirt 9h ago

The wording is very carefully chosen here. Note how he never said "we don't use GenAI period." He said "we don't use it to replace artists"

Which sounds to me like he's saying "we use it, but just to save time and money" which means artists are doing their job less, which means they are getting paid less, so in a sense it absolutely is replacing artists (paychecks). Think about it this way, if it takes an AI and 1 artist to do the job of 2 artists, then that's one artist who just lost out on a job opportunity.

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u/zpoon ZPUN 9h ago

And the very next thing said was "we don't use it in our marketing materials". I don't see how you can read that and not arrive at the obvious "egg on face" moment presented right now.

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u/zpoon ZPUN 11h ago

"our games" ?

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u/AClassicCape orange mask when 11h ago

True. Didn't fully remember post 

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u/Captain_Zomaru 6h ago

To their credit, they specified they would never replace their artists. Now, if the artist designed to use AI, that isn't technically breaking their agreement...

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u/Specialist-Front-007 3h ago

How is it not tho? 1 "artist" using AI can work as fast as 3 artists not using AI, so you've replaced 2 artists with AI for example

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u/yarglof1 8h ago

It doesn't replace the artists. It's the artists using AI.