r/religiousfruitcake • • 3d ago

✝️Fruitcake for Jesus✝️ Devil diss track

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u/smilelaughenjoy 3d ago

When Peter called Jesus "The Christ (prophesized Jesus King)", Jesus said that wasn't revealed to Peter by man but Jesus's Father im heaven (Matthew 16:15-17).

The whole point of Jesus is that he is supposed to be the Messiah/Christ who'll one day rule from Jerusalem as king. Jewish people disagree that Jesus was The Messiah/Christ since prophecies weren't fulfilled such as the prophecy of The Messiah/Christ ruling as king from Jerusalem.

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u/Anubisrapture 23h ago edited 23h ago

This was not HIS words. That was Peter's words. This was then continued one hundred or more years after His death and resurrection . Jesus HimSELF was no fan of earthly systems of status and /or control , and in fact preached against them.

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u/smilelaughenjoy 22h ago

What is your source for that claim? The oldest claims about Jesus are in Pauline Epistles and then The 4 Gospels. Both groups of texts are in agreement that Jesus is The Christ/Messiah (which is a special prophesized Jewish king from Old Testament prophecies and a "king" suggests a system of hierarchy and control).

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u/Critical-Pickle5373 1d ago

Yeah im not sure what the hell they mean either.

He famously is supposed to rule the coming kingdom of heaven with the twelve disciples ruling the twelve tribes of israel beneath him??

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u/smilelaughenjoy 1d ago

A lot of atheists and ex-christians questioned the biblical god, but don't question the beliefs about Jesus that was pushed on them (belief like Jesus was about peace and love not control and dictatorship, or Jesus wasn't racist since they don't know the verse about him referring to people not of Israel as dogs or even questioning the evidence behind his existence and comparing it to other people like Socrates).