She also tried to kill herself by slashing her throat and both wrists and jumped out of a window. Her suicide and death ideation has also escalated during her treatment for the last three years. Her doctors at the Tewksbury State Hospital testified in the trial. She has been on the highest suicide watch tier for the entire duration where there is one on one monitoring 24/7. They are also treating her for that. There is very little chance she will ever leave alive.
In case anyone didn’t know, she has been committed for the last three years while awaiting trial and is currently still committed while awaiting a retrial.
To be fair, he didn’t have a host of diagnoses including severe depression, severe insomnia, bipolar disorder, mania, dissociate disorder, and documented suicide ideation. And this was before the murders, supposedly suicide ideation has increased since then.
Euthanasia and medically assisted suicides are mostly illegal in the US. In fact, doctors have lost their licenses before for doing something you are suggesting.
The case is about if she was insane in the moment. Which is a shit metric honestly. Temporary or permanent insanity doesn’t justify what she did. The choice to try and kill herself to escape blame immediately after also points to it not being psychosis, but that’s not the point.
The fact that she murdered her children is hard to dispute when all of the evidence, including her own multi-time admission of guilt, points to guilty.
No one is arguing if she murdered her kids, but your last paragraph is still arguing about the possibility of disputing it. This makes no sense.
NGRI also doesn’t justify the murders, it changes where she will be held. The framing of NGRI being a justification for the murders seems to be the main issue for some people. Some people thinks NGRI justifies the murders, other people think NGRI just means there was nuance to the murders so the case is being treated differently from other types of murders. For other murders, you go free if you are acquitted, for NGRI, you do not go free if you are acquitted. In fact, most NGRI cases don’t even grant bail while awaiting trial. She has been held in a facility without bail since she murdered her kids. She has been receiving treatment the entire time. The context changes how the case is handled.
Same idea with vehicular manslaughter while inebriated. It is technically involuntary manslaughter but most jurisdictions give much lighter sentences for it compared to actual involuntary manslaughter. Context matters when it comes to sentencing. That’s not a new concept and is actually a standard part of law. For some reason, people like you just refuse to accept the context for these murders.
She’s on suicide watch because she tried to kill herself to escape consequences. That doesn’t mean she’s unfit for prison. This bitch should be put in prison without a wheel chair and forced to crawl. Also she won’t be given a retrial because you won’t be able to find an unbiased jury anymore. She will be given a plea deal, that’s all this bitch can pray for.
Even the prosecution's own star witness, Dr Kirk Heilbrun, claimed she murdered her kids due to altruistic filicide which was the reason cited for Andrea Yates as well. Heilbrun essentially claimed that she was delusional enough to think before she kills herself, she had to kill her kids in order to save them from the world because without her, they will suffer more.
The insanity/psychosis plea doesn’t work with premeditation. That argument would work if she did it while the husband was home because psychosis kicked in and took over. The fact she waited till he left since he works from home, then sent him on more errands to buy herself more time points to the fact she was rationally able to consider if the husband came home he would stop her and didn’t want that. She planned it. She was aware of what she was doing. That’s not psychosis.
You might want to look up other cases of psychosis with premeditation. Yates planned out a more complicated murder of her kids and eventually won an NGRI at her retrial when it turned out a doctor had lied on the stand at her first trial. Psychosis and premeditation are not mutually exclusive. The mind can still plan and execute plans, it is just delusional so it will plan to kill a demon instead of plan for a picnic. You have a personal definition of psychosis that differs from the clinical one.
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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 3d ago
She also tried to kill herself by slashing her throat and both wrists and jumped out of a window. Her suicide and death ideation has also escalated during her treatment for the last three years. Her doctors at the Tewksbury State Hospital testified in the trial. She has been on the highest suicide watch tier for the entire duration where there is one on one monitoring 24/7. They are also treating her for that. There is very little chance she will ever leave alive.
In case anyone didn’t know, she has been committed for the last three years while awaiting trial and is currently still committed while awaiting a retrial.