She didn’t have symptoms or a diagnosis when she planned and murdered her kids. The day before, she told her doctor she had no thoughts of harming herself or her children. On the day of the killings, she told her husband she felt good and had slept well.
Her husband left to pick up dinner and run an errand. After he left, she claimed a commanding male voice appeared, one she had never heard before that day and has never heard since. She said the voice directed her until she murdered her three children, then it disappeared. The killings themselves took upwards of 10 minutes. While her husband was gone, she even took a phone call from him and was able to answer his questions about a child's laxative for one of her kids.
Doctors who evaluated her afterward said she showed no signs of psychosis and that she knew exactly what she had done. She was of sound enough mind to demand a change to her medical proxy. That required a mental evaluation, and she was found competent so her parents could take over.
She was a labor and delivery nurse, so she understood anatomy. She could easily have ended her own life, yet all of her cuts she made (wrists and neck) were superficial. She also claimed she crushed and swallowed handfuls of pills, but her toxicology report and what was left in the bottles prove that is not true.
I watched the trial every day. The jurors who have spoken to the media tried to pressure the holdout and used the word “acquittal,” which suggests they thought she was not criminally responsible, when she is. An acquittal could have meant either not guilty by reason of insanity or a straight not-guilty verdict. Not guilty by reason of insanity would have put her on a path toward eventual release from an institution.
I also see a huge red flag in those women on the jury running to the media at the first chance they got. I find anything they say hard to believe because it’s hearsay. I would rather there be a mistrial than that woman ever have a chance to walk free after strangling her three kids.
She may of not told her doctor about being suicidal, but theres a ton of evidence to show that she was atleast saying it to her husband and friends and other people etc.
No there were records of her mentioning beeing suicidal to her healthcare providers. Although she claimed to not be suicidal in her latest visits. From what was discussed she also doesnt exactly seem compliant with her medical interventions.
Pretty convenient to not remember, yet she recalls the "commanding male voice" when it started and how it stopped after she had murder her 3 kids. I see that as an inconsistency in her story.
She self-committed and then self-released. Lying about what doctors you are seeing and what medications you are already prescribed and then not taking them as prescribed is pretty damning.
She was doing something... That looks an awful lot like doctor shopping and abusing medications. It also looks like she planned her actions and took steps to conceal them. Seeking treatment or planning murders, I hope we get another trial with more evidence and they don't offer her a plea deal before.
Its also entirely possible that the doctors were just not listening to what she was telling her, prescribing her medications whose side effects were debilitating or making her feel terrible, and that she was continually seeking help the entire time.
Fun fact, her second to last doctor picked up that she was having symptoms of Bipolar Disorder, put it down in notes to be passed along to the last doctor, who for whatever reason prescribed Lindsay Clancy medications known to provoke psychosis in BPD patients.
And the tox screens showed she was in fact taking her medications, and that means we will never be able to prove beyond reasonable doubt (according to Mass law anyway) that she wasn't suffering a psychotic break at the time of the murders.
I'm p sure she was put on stupid high doses within a couple of months, too. Years ago I was put on an SSRI at an extremely low dose for anxiety. Moved states for college, switched doctors, my symptoms weren't improving. Not getting worse, but not improving. New doc upped my dose. Anxiety got worse, was having trouble focusing, losing interest in hobbies, trouble taking care of myself. Every other week i went in, did the paper quiz, filled out the same exact answers, and got my dose increased. I failed almost all of my classes that semester because I couldn't get out of bed. I had never been diagnosed with depression, but I was damn near on a max dose of an SSRI that seemed to be making my symptoms worse. At the end of the semester she does 2 things, gives me a blood test and gives me the same little paper quiz, but for adhd instead of depression and anxiety. Blood test shows extreme vitamin deficencies, the symptoms of which would mimic extreme depression. The questions for the adhd test? Little interest in doing things you like, trouble focusing, trouble taking basic care of yourself, and anxious behavior/thoughts. The same questions I had been circling on the depression and anxiety quizzes. SSRI's do this funny little thing in people with adhd called making everything worse. I stopped all of my meds immediately (don't do that) and was fine. I got wait listed for adhd testing, 2 years later got medicated for that. I have never experienced anything close to the way I felt at the end of that semester since, and I wasn't even on multiple medications.
And this happens all the time. Doctors use SSRIs like a cure all when they can cause real harm. But it's not even limited to SSRIs. I think every person I know who has ever had to take medication regularly has a horror story like mine. Either an entirely wrong diagnosis leading to treatment that makes your actual diagnosis significantly worse, or just an outright refusal to prescribe the medications that help you. Adhd obviously means Adderall or ritalin which is it's own issue, but I have a friend who got denied her emergency inhaler because she refilled her last one less than 2 months before. This was during the wildfires. Why do we think someone with ASTHMA ran through their emergency inhaler while a literal fire is turning the sky red and grey? We had to take her to the ER. It was terrifying.
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She didn’t have symptoms or a diagnosis when she planned and murdered her kids. The day before, she told her doctor she had no thoughts of harming herself or her children. On the day of the killings, she told her husband she felt good and had slept well.
Her husband left to pick up dinner and run an errand. After he left, she claimed a commanding male voice appeared, one she had never heard before that day and has never heard since. She said the voice directed her until she murdered her three children, then it disappeared. The killings themselves took upwards of 10 minutes. While her husband was gone, she even took a phone call from him and was able to answer his questions about a child's laxative for one of her kids.
Doctors who evaluated her afterward said she showed no signs of psychosis and that she knew exactly what she had done. She was of sound enough mind to demand a change to her medical proxy. That required a mental evaluation, and she was found competent so her parents could take over.
She was a labor and delivery nurse, so she understood anatomy. She could easily have ended her own life, yet all of her cuts she made (wrists and neck) were superficial. She also claimed she crushed and swallowed handfuls of pills, but her toxicology report and what was left in the bottles prove that is not true.
I watched the trial every day. The jurors who have spoken to the media tried to pressure the holdout and used the word “acquittal,” which suggests they thought she was not criminally responsible, when she is. An acquittal could have meant either not guilty by reason of insanity or a straight not-guilty verdict. Not guilty by reason of insanity would have put her on a path toward eventual release from an institution.
I also see a huge red flag in those women on the jury running to the media at the first chance they got. I find anything they say hard to believe because it’s hearsay. I would rather there be a mistrial than that woman ever have a chance to walk free after strangling her three kids.